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18 years ago

Hello all

I am wondering if any of you have a love potion from which I might have a cutting. Mine was doing okay but I thought I'd move it into the no dig garden as the others were doing really well there and I have lost it. Also do you know where I can get the bonica and iceberg combination, grafted on one bush?. I ordered one from Sydney some time ago and then from another gardening site where they were on special as gifts. But are they always available?

Please let me know if you can help Jan

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18 years ago
Hi Jan,
Here's a link with some of the multi-grafted roses you mentioned.
Cheers,
Dee.

Here is a link that might be useful: SMH store
tom_pariz
18 years ago
Not fan od standards, but I saw one amazing tree -- yes, I can say, it was a tree: 2.5 m high understock, with 4 white, 4 burgundy Icebergs and 4 pink(blush?) Icebergs.
Cost? Not sure, but if I remember correctly, above $300.
- Tom
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jancol
Original Author
18 years ago
Ouch Tom, a bit much. I got the last one from Sydney morning herald last June for about $30, bonica and iceberg.
Jan
lozza
18 years ago
Not wanting to rain on anyone's parade, but a word of warning for the unwary. Sounds great doesn't it? 10 different cultivars on one understock. Can I let you in on some practical aspects of these offers, made to entice those who often know little better than to part with their money.

It is usual to put 2 buds onto a standard understock. One, to give a bit of insurance should one bud not take, and two, to provide a balanced head, given that the buds are implanted on opposite sides of the stock, one slightly below the other. Usually both take and to begin with we have an acceptably robust plant. However after a few years one of the scions (usually the lower) does better than the other, which eventually dies. The lower scion gradually expands to enclose the entire head of the understock, in effect starving the upper scion of nourishment, and it dies. Very rarely is it the other way around. If you apply this logic to stock budded up with 10 cultivars, it follows that in 10 years you will have a 3' standard of the lowest budded cultivar.

In addition to this, the cultivars mentioned are not vigorous enough to make a balanced plant at 6' height. They do have names of popular and reliable cultivars to lure the punters. Iceberg and Bonica are OK at tops 4' height understocks, while 6' understocks are usually reserved for the weeping or procumbent cultivars, to give that much larger, weeping and/or umbrella form. Hey, but in the end it's your money.

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