Hello - I'm interested in red (or deep orange) roses for a slightly different reason: I want names of roses to use as Kennel Club Registered names for a litter of Irish Setter Puppies. I managed to get nine names for Rosie's first litter two years ago, but am a bit stumped this time. I LIKE some of the ones on this posting which are new to me. I'm hoping for a second and final litter from Rosie this autumn. The roses need to be attractive, disease resistant and hardy! It took a lot of time and effort and thought to come up with names for the last litter - Atlantic Star, Pathfinder, Danny Boy, Dublin Bay, Galway Bay, Rob Roy,Heart of Gold, Charisma and Little Flame. I put a photo of each rose in the individual puppy packs. All other suggestions gratefully received!

There are some great rose nurseries in Adelaide. Wagner's and Ross to the south and St.Kilda to the north, also the Flower Garden at Nairne. You can ring any of them - they are always willing to help. TFG and Ross have a great website - esp www.rossroses.com.au there is a terrific gallery with a search engine that will help you. Sorry about your brother. I lost a sister and it leaves a strange hollow feeling to lose a sibling. Deb in Adelaide

halloblondie, you've got a nice start to your gardens--and don't worry--one of these days, you'll look around and realize you have a "mature" garden. If it's any encouragement, I like to joke that when I moved into this house back in the early 1980s, all my back yard had was weeds and sunshine. So I immediately planted a couple trees in strategic spots along the western property line--so there would be a little protection from that late afternoon "killer sun" that my zone 6 garden has to endure. However, I have to admit that the previous owner was evidently a talented gardener herself. I still am growing some of the plants (peonies, daylilies, hydrangeas, iris) that she left me, although they have been moved around a half dozen times or so since then. I basically started with the two garden beds she had and kept expanding them a few feet more --a little wider here, a bit longer there--and now, thirty some years later, those beds cover most of my back yard--which is fine with me since I have no use otherwise for a backyard. We will enjoy watching your gardens expand over the years also! : ) Cynthia--I had trouble getting the larkspur started. For two years I threw seeds all over the back garden and would just get a handful of rather pathetic looking larkspur to grow. So I started ignoring them, having given up on that project. Well, that handful of larkspur threw their own seed at the right time and by winter, all sorts of tiny larkspur plants were growing. At first I thought they were a new kind of weed, but getting behind on my weeding, some of them grew large enough that I finally realized they were larkspurs! Since then, I do nothing except when I pull out the plants after they are done blooming, I do shake a few of the plants over spots where I'd like more larkspur next year. They are now so busy re-seeding themselves that by spring, I will have to pull nearly half of them out so they dont' choke out some other desirable plants--but there's always enough left that I get a natural show for about 5-6 weeks in late May and most of June. Here it is July and I still have a handful still blooming out there--but I think this is probably their last week for this year. Siberian Iris--that's easy. They are tough and super cold-hardy--hardy down to -40 degrees! Gorgeous spring bloomers, no diseases, no care. You might be confusing them with Japanese or Louisiana irises that have greater water/moisture needs and probably don't like the sun as much as other irises do, but other than that I think they are all very cold hardy, but I've never grown Japanese or Lousiana irises, so I cant' say for sure about them. However, my mom grew Siberian irises in South Dakota, so I can swear by their cold hardiness. I treat them like I would any other perennial--no additional fussing at all. You do plant them in full sun, don't you? You must try them again sometimes. Sun and not too much water. That's about it. Now, as to Princess Diana clem--mine is always just barely making it. I think that western sun tends to boil mine. I had no idea she was a thug elsewhere. Have you got some pics of yours? I was afraid I'd lost mine during an exceptionally cold winter we had a couple years ago, but she is creeping back again--so I'm guessing it is the hot summer that is harder for her to handle. To all the other posters: I'm so enjoying all the gardens. So many different styles and combinations--and they all look wonderful! Kate

I ordered quite a few for the cemetery. Eleanor -- the cemetery president -- wants to have a "planting day" in Spring as a way to get people interested in volunteering, so I've been waiting for the end-of-season sales to start. I also nabbed a few from Rose Petals Nursery, which still has a bunch listed for $7, and one for $5. They can't be sorted by price, but if you go to "in-stock roses" and scroll through, keeping an eye on prices, you'll catch those marked down. Those two orders will be shipped April 15. Angel Gardens' sale was on the stipulation that the roses would be shipped by October, so I chose only a few which weren't so tender that they'd be iffy going in the ground here this time of year. Since I know you'll ask anyway, I copied the email I sent to Eleanor and pasted it below. It includes a little something about some of the roses, and possible placements. I tried focusing on things that weren't easily found elsewhere, or were "found" roses which would fit here, or were things that would fit and were marked down in price. Moving forward, I'm going to try expanding the cemetery's collection by asking for cuttings, which I'll either try rooting, or just bud onto 'Pink Clouds' and plant deeply enough so that they eventually go own-root. From Angel Gardens, coming this month: "Barbara's Pasture Rose" http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.37549 'Felicite et Perpetue' -- for Maple at Needham-Roxbury http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.2722 'Gruss an Teplitz' -- for the Staat bed http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.3131 'Kiftsgate' -- for Beech at first bed http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.3614.0 'Rambling Rector' -- for one of the pines http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.5077 'Seagull' -- for one of the pines http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.5667 From High Country Roses, coming in April: 'Alfred Colomb' -- Leu bed? http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.132.0 "Beulah Blakely" (Riverside Cemetery in Denver) -- not sure where yet http://www.highcountryroses.com/beulah-blakely 'Dupontii' -- not sure where yet, but look at the pics and think about it http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.1682 'Enfant de France' -- Leu bed? http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2627.0 "Fairmount Proserpine" (Fairmount Cemetery in Denver) http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.62618.0 [possibly the real 'Proserpine', which see below] http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.5003&tab=36 "Fairmount Red" (Fairmount Cemetery in Denver) -- behind main stone in Staat bed http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.30250 [possibly 'Rivers' George IV', which see below] http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.5227 'Francis E. Lester' (named for the man who started Roses of Yesterday and Today, an old-rose nursery in California) -- possibly to climb the maple in the second (huge) bed http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.2836 'General Jacqueminot' -- Leu bed, or can be pegged to the railing in a front corner elsewhere http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2919 'Gloire de Guilan' (a rose found by English gardener-writer Nancy Lindsay growing in Iran to produce attar of roses in the 1940s, but which was much, much older) -- something for the base of a tree, possibly at shorter strip bed http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.2977 'Great Western' (named for the second mail steamship to cross the Atlantic in 1838, which arrived just a few hours after the first -- Sirius -- which left four days earlier) -- behind a featured stone http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.308988 'Harrison's Yellow', aka 'The Yellow Rose of Texas' -- longer strip bed http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/pl.php?n=56662 (George Folliott Harrison bred the rose in Manhattan, and his grave is still there, and is now a part of the Heritage Rose District of NYC, which see below) http://www.heritagerosefoundation.org/heritage-rose-district-of-nyc Oh, and good thing I placed the order, because now it's sold-out "Hattie Burton" (found-rose grown since at least 1920 in Utah, so must be older) -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.30251.0 'Henri Martin' -- behind a featured stone, perhaps Leu bed? http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.3247 'Henry Nevard' -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.3252 'Marchesa Boccella' / 'Jacques Cartier' (one of several examples of an old rose whose true identity is suspect, so it's listed under both names) -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.3252 'Mrs. John Laing' -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.4317 'Nevada' -- longer strip bed http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.4454 'Paul Ricault -- in commerce as' -- behind a featured stone http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2201.0 [in all likelihood, its real identity is 'Paul Perras', which see below] http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.63925.0 "Souvenir du President Lincoln -- in commerce as" (the original was dark red, but this rose is deep pink -- still, it's very fragrant old long-caned Bourbon from the 19th Century) -- to peg to the railing in a front corner somewhere http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.24649.1 'Stanwell Perpetual' (the old-rose that inspired David Austin to breed repeat-blooming old-fashioned roses) -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.5953 'Sydonie' -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.17662.1 'William Lobb' -- behind a featured stone, maybe Needham-Roxbury, maybe Leu http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.6102.1 From Rose Petals Nursery, coming in April: 'Anna Olivier' -- not sure where yet, probably Staat or Leu or someplace in full-sun http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.268.3 "Baretta St. Bourbon" (found-rose from California) -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.20455 "Chester Cemetery No. 2" (an old Noisette found at least three times, and given a name each time, then later recognized to be the same....so whatever it's real name was, the rose was grown in South Carolina and California) -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.36863.1 "Green Mount Red" (Noisette from Green Mount Cemetery in Maryland, replanted in Heritage Rose District in Harlem, NYC) -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.73077 'Kazanlik' (dating at least to the Crusades, when the earliest Damasks were brought to Europe, this is grown for attar of roses in Bulgaria) -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.1948 'Ornament des Bosquets -- in commerce as' (original was a once-blooming Ayrshire, but this is a repeat-blooming Noisette) -- climber for a sunny tree http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.22667 "Picayune" (an old miniature Polyantha found unnamed in Louisiana, the "found" name refers to a Mexican coin, which is the same size as the tiny blooms) -- for the Staat baby girl who died in the early 20th Century http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.32038.2 'Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux' -- not sure where yet, needs full sun http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.5205 "Roseville Noisette" (found-rose from California, probably early 19th Century) -- not sure where yet http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.60770 'Souvenir d'un Ami -- in commerce as' (probably not the original, but still a 19th Century Tea) -- not sure where yet, needs full-sun http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.5908 :-) ~Christopher