I did see this! And yes, I still LOVE it five years later. We still haven't begun the 2nd-floor bathroom, aka the 1925 Hall Bath/Faux Master which is our only bathroom on the bedroom level with a clawfoot tub & a shower ring. So the Starting From Dirt Basement Bathroom is still my favorite place to shower. So here's how to do the Starting From Dirt Basement Bath set up: Hansgrohe Ibox rough in Shower & tub fixtures - Hansgrohe Rain S Showerhead & hand shower S Thermostatic Trim with Volume Control and Diverter (tub to shower) Kohler HydroRail Shower Column and Diverter (showerhead to hand shower) Metris S tub filler The Tub Filler & Hydrorail are tied together at the Ibox by the diverter on the shower trim, the two showerheads switch between each other on the Hydorail. Run it all by your plumber - I don't know if all these parts (especially the hydrorail) are still available! Good luck! Also, here's a link to Part 2 of the Adventure: https://tinyurl.com/ydntvkzc

Glad to see you are feeling better, day by day. Now is the time to go outside for awhile, as we are 30 miles below the Sak border (Canada). Do get alot of Canadians to Minot, ND and they come to the garage sales and the city wide sales. If you peek in to the Kitchen Table much, you will see so many changes. Many are gone, so many new names and some of the posters are not so nice. It use to be their could be a disagreement, of someone would post a negative remark, it just went on. That has all changed. I am very careful what I post and on what posting. Oh, well, times do change. Glad you have your children close and they are doing fantastic. Mine are in 3 different states and doing good. I also have 3 great grandkids--pretty cute. Take care and have a great day Marie from ND

Thank you all for your help. I figured some things out last night before I upgraded to Win 8.1 - that download took hours to complete To get the verification code I needed to sign into my Sympatico account and I could not do it using my iPod. I had the right password and user name but I could not log on. I called Bell this morning at 7 am and was on the phone with them for more than 2 hours. They couldn't figure out what was wrong with my email because they had a hard time signing in too. After 2 hours they reset my password to the same one and after I hung up I still could not access my email. I finally had to call a friend to log in and get the Windows verification code for me so I could complete the installation. I switched to IE instead of using Mozilla. My laptop was always dimming after 5 minutes so I found the way to reset that. I will get rid of the trial McAfee. I will also download Malewarebytes and CC Cleaner which I used on my other laptop. haha I think I will buy that Dummies book for Windows One other question I use a wireless mouse to play FB games but I am finding it lagging, is there any way I can speed it up to move quicker. Also I have a WIFI Pixma Cannon Printer, this computer does not have CD reader so I can't download the dsiks. I should be able to still use the printer by plugging the printer into my USB port? Thank you again Anne

It's not that complicated? I have to admit Mike's got more courage than other professed "geniuses" who do nothing other than produce non-substantive quackery, based around titles and high end degrees they never use. Wipe the dust off the degree and make yourself look better on a forum board filled with strangers. ---While real people here, with real experience actually help people on this board. Mike is "pretty close" to realizing where the problem lies..... but no real solution. Because "it's complicated." But wait everyone in the previous thread "linked above" claims there is nothing that difficult in this profession? How could that be true? So what can I glean from what the OP said? I currently have a forced air system, all updated in the last 5 years. I currently have 2 programmable thermostats, downstairs and upstairs, powered by C wires. 1 forced air system, recently updated, 2 programmable thermostats. Indicates a Zoned HVAC system. (Am I right? Is your HVAC system zoned?) Oh, that's not that complicated? For a pro who actually does this "for a living" --- no, not really. I don't use GC's, or sub contractors, no chemical engineering degree, no bugs bunny / road runner hour (cartoons). I charge a "fraction" to fix these kinds of problems compared to other companies. A fraction of $30K, click the attached picture below. This is big boys club, don't kid yourself. I service the Katy, Texas area. Don't believe me? (click to enlarge) This person (from picture below) never commented on Houzz likely because of the vile atmosphere here from people who "claim everything" and really know nothing. This place likes to chase away the "pros" that could help you. I'm more "thick skinned" than people realize.... this is not a DIY profession. Especially in the realm of HVAC zoned systems. Consider your sources when making HVAC decisions. Many commenters are "PRETENDERS" here. I service the Katy, Texas area.