Here is possibly the best description of the situation that I have come across. I encourage people to at least be familiar with the situation, whether or not they choose to use the official names. So, most "mihanovichii" are officially stenopleurum. How many times did you see a dirty yellow flower? G. friedrichii is not an official taxonomic name, if it were it would refer to plants with bold pink flowers which are rarely found. Here is a link that might be useful: Cultivar article

Howard I understand your enthusiasm! I have yet to grow any from seed. I have been looking into some different seeds offered trying to decide what to start with. I would love to have one or two. : ) Shoot me an email, I don't have much but we may be able to do some trading. Congradulations on your acheivement! Glenn

thanks for your answer! Too sad that I didnôt know this before! My thimble is not colored, I just thought it was very cute because of its shape. I planned to give color to the pot with the others :( So the little spiked balls (seedlings??) that grow and then fall off the colored "head" are not for propagation unless I graft them? I did create a new pot with some succulents, with only different shapes and only one red type of succulent a friend of mine was growing and I thought it was really pretty. I havenôt seen anything else with colors in the store (I go to Home Depot, of course, I am sure in more specific places I could find more interesting things). Do you have an idea of how long will the graft be alive? If I pot it now, will I at least be able to enjoy it until the winter? Thanks!

Hi, Just wanted to share. This seed pod by color and size I believe to be a possible polypoid. The pod is at least 5 months old now. Cant wait to grow out the seeds :)