Soilent Green, I agree with about want lists having an updated date on it. It is very helpful to know when looking at a list. I have one on my trade page and change the date as I update my trade page for trading, which I usually don't start doing until then end of October every year. At the same time, I continue to add seeds to my list as I have them available for the upcoming year, but leave the old updated date until I am ready to trade. That doesn't stop people from emailing me for trades with a date that is 6 months or more old that states when the trade list was updated. As for wasting time pursing trades with people that are no longer trading or interested in trading, there are some members that do not like to be "cold emailed" from other members to do trades, especially with members that are new or fairly new to the seed exchange, or "cold emails" for trades from members that they have never traded with. They may still have trade lists posted that are old because they will have the same seeds available every year and they just leave the list posted and when they are ready to trade again, they post on the seed exchange about trading. I've been a GW member and trading seeds for more than 7 years now, and I, personally, don't "cold email" members for trades unless they are members that I have traded with in the past, trade with frequently every year, or a member that I trade specific seeds with every year and I let them know in advance of posting for trades and BEAP seeds on the forum, what seeds I have specific for them and what I'm looking for. As for GW deleting members have not be active in the last 2 years, that is not a good idea. GW has various forums on the site, and just because someone is not actively posting on the seed exchange forum, doesn't mean they don't post and participate in many of the other forums on GW. Some members just to private trades between certain members only and they leave a trade and want list posted for those specific members to see. Some people have their trade and want list posted and only do round robin trades, but leave that list posted for those on the round robin exchanges to see and use. And yes, there are some members that have trade and want lists still posted that have been banned by GW, have passed away and just are not on GW anymore. Expecting GW to try and figure out what members are and are not active on the seed exchange forum but are posting on other forums on the site, vs don't post at all, is really just a waste of time on their part. There are far to many members on GW and the time it would take is nothing more than a waste of time on their part. I suggest that if you have been wasting time trying to trade with people by sending "cold emails" to them, that you just work with the members that post on the seed exchange with trade offers, BEAP/SASBE offers and if you have seeds for trade on your own trade page, then post on the seed exchange yourself with the seeds you have to trade and what you are looking for. Experience has shown me that the easiest way to trade seeds is to use the seed exchange forum and the posts on the seed exchange form itself and to post myself with offers and what I'm looking for. There is always room for improvement on any site. And Welcome to the wacky world of seed trading. Fran

After killing a bunch of plants and giving up on gardening on the gulf. I am back at it again. This time a lot smarter. I look when I drive and see what is growing like crazy when everything else is struggling to survive. Then I research the item. The days of buying what was pretty at the nurseries is over. Plants that grow 15 miles inland may not even have a chance on the coast. The same with plants that grow here may not make it inland. We have beautiful rubber trees and Banyan Figs and they will not make it a summer inland outside. I do believe the key is in the invasive root system. They drink the cool water about 5-6 feet down and are happy with the heat. Kind of like us when we go into the AC of our house when it is hot and humid. The plants out of Mexico do well because of their leaf structure and root system. The waxyer the leaf the more heat they seem to be able to take. Plus long term adaptation. Then again I cannot get the mexican sage to grow here. It is a rock everywhere else. I even see it right on the water at the islands backside. It just will not grow well where I live. Go figure maybe a microclimate?? A friend told me of all the beautiful Hybrid Tea roses she bought at Walmart yesterday. My thoughts were dead in a year. Now when I go I am after something in particular not just a pretty plant but a coastal survivor. Just my take on this Texas coast plants Jim

>>Front loader, of course! Good choice! >>I thought the main reason SQ was good, was they still use the old school agitator style top loader...educate me for when I'm ready to get a new one, Thanks! chris No, the main reason SQ is good is their quality. Has nothing to do with having an agitator. Whirlpool and GE have full fill agitator washers too that work well, but they just won't last as long. I prefer front loaders because they are far more efficient. You can't argue with using 15 gallons per load instead of 50!

They look fine, but the mix you put them in is pretty rich, so be extra careful not to overwater. Damaged flower stems stay damaged, and damaged foliage stays damaged, but the plant continually grows new foliage so after a while the damaged will fall off or disappear underneath the new. Far left, can't see, but perhaps one of the "stacked" crassulas. google on "stacked crassula" there is a good article by palmbob out there.