I have some very tasty 2nd gen OP Mariachis for trade if you're still looking. Also, the Carmen sweet pepper, and some medium cherry peppers (pimentos?) i'd happily trade. I'm looking for some chocolate habs, the black hungarians (one of my Faves, but hard to find around here) and i'd be happy to have a few TAMs if you're willing to trade them too. Feel free to email me via GW and we can set up contact info/exchange. Thanks, Mike

I took over care of a garden last year with 20 or more Beaverdam peppers. My first serious attempts at seed saving involved this variety and a few other varieties in that plot. The Beaverdam Peppers had fine seeds in them once they were mature. They ripen to red but it takes time. Some had alot more seeds than others. Some had very few. I have in front of me a packet of seeds I saved from one Beaverdam pepper pod. For some reason I counted the seeds last year and labeled the envelope....114 seeds from 1 pod. A germination test during the winter resulted in 5 out of 5 germinating in 5 days. I couldn't stand to throw them out and kept them alive inside all winter. They are now doing well in my garden....but I don't have 20 plants this year. I'm more of a mild pepper person! I have saved seeds from some immature peppers and some that ripened off the vine. Germination is iffy....the riper they are when picked the better. If that is not possible, then let them ripen as long as possible off the vine. That doesn't guarantee good seed but seems to help. I've found that those that do germinate tend to take longer than the seeds saved from vine ripened pods. LOL, just found another packet that shows 224 seeds from one Beaverdam pod. I must have been bored last October! I think I am past counting large numbers of seeds now. For what it's worth: I tend to capitalize Beaverdam because for years I knew it only as a very small town (village?) near our larger city. I think they grew alot of celery and onions there. I was very surprised to find out last year that there was a Beaverdam pepper. Unripe Beaverdam peppers

Greetings! Another beautiful day out here in Utah! Took a drive along the Beaver Dam Mtns in Arizona. They skirt the western border of Utah and the sliver of land that is Arizona and Nevada takes over a little north. Lots of Joshua trees to look at. Saw some folks camping, too. You can camp at many primitive sites out there along the mountains. Basically, just pull over into one of the many free camping, no services, alcoves surrounded by Joshua trees and you're all set. No one to register with, either. A BLM ranger (may) come by periodically. Mostly, you are out here by yourself. http://usera.imagecave.com/mochajo/BeaverDamJoshuas053.jpg Here is a picture of such an area. the other link for a week or until the next outing will have pictures of joshua trees all along this twenty mile dirt road that skirts the western bottom of this uplifted mountain range along the border. cheers! jerry http://usera.imagecave.com/mochajo/

Yep, i am aware they can be purchased, but that is only half the fun. i prefer trading with others and locals when possible. plus, i am a small grower and it doesn't make a lot of sense to buy 1 random seed packet from a site and pay three times more for the shipping than what the seeds cost ;) trading seeds with others is also better for the sustainability of plants/seeds. ;) And although i'm interested in either variety, i'm particularly interested in Indian Stripe PL variety which i haven't been able to find a source for. Also, neither Indian Stripe or Beaver Dam are hybrids.