"Shake and Bake" refers to the nickname given to the state of California, which it is not only named for, but it is the state flower for :) California is often referred to as "Shake and Bake, USA WELL DUH!...lol, FANNA WHO IS Hysterical laughing at herself for FORGETTING THIS FACT about Callie! See I am afraid to TRY any Poppy for breadseed because what if someone sends one they THINK is safe and it isn't? JASMINE, I ACCIDENTLY TYPED THE WRONG NUMBER! All is WELL it WAS Margos I was working on and since I believe I meanted the gift she gave me it was clear it was just a slip of the finger or brainwave or something along those lines..... Lisa I stayed up last night til 5:00 am or would that be stayed up this morning til? Oh well, which ever that is what I did. It is just a matter of me bring ODC and can't stop until I feel HAPPY with the results....lol!!! WOW you all are sending in some REALLY REALLY good stuff!!! Wendy, thanks for my GIFT...I will be on a CHOCOLATE high tonight, haha! That was so sweet of you to think of me, thanks again. I am actaully taking a breather at this minute to eat supper then I will get back to the seeds. :) Fran I will go ahead and post #11 thread!

Well CC you must have the same doctor as me! "Maybe you have asthma" they said. "But I've never had asthma in my life" I replied. "Well maybe the flu is bringing on a bout of asthma. " So let me get this straight, I don't have asthma except once or twice a year when I get the flu and then I have asthma?" "Well you never know" they say, "Try this nebulizer with a bronchial dialator and take this steriod inhaler sample that we had in the back closet home and see if that works." Nope, it does not work, and no, the antibiotics don't work, and no, the steroids don't work. I am very leery of all this because my friend was misdiagnosed with asthma and was treated for ten years with ever increasingly strong steroids and in the meantime she had a rare, undaignosed esophagal problem. In the end, her esophagus was the size of an 8 month baby and her ovaries had been destroyed by the steroids, along with her bones and eyes, which she now has cataracts on. All because someone summarily diagnosed her with "asthma." Which is why to me saying "asthma" means you just don't know and don't want to take the time to make an expensive diagnosis. And taking frequent courses of antibiotics can also wreak havoc with your health, as happened with my friend who ended up with chronic yeast infections from overuse of antibiotics for ear infections. And I have to take them for my chronic urinary tract infections as it stands. So I am at risk for developing "superbugs" in my system which my doctor should be well aware of if s/he looked at my medical history. Anyway, chronic bronchitis means you have it for two months or more and get it more than once a year. This problem has been ongoing for me for four years. And I have had a two month cough at other times in my life, although it is starting to now happen more frequently. So there's probably some kind of genetic weakness there. I have irritable bowel syndrome, interstitial cystitis, and migranes, which are all inflammatory problems so why should my lungs get left out! So I may also have GERD in the mix but I don't think it is all attributable to that. Not sure how much modern medicine has to offer this condition. It's hard because I am ordinarily an active person and I have a job that requires me to by physically active for long periods of time. My whole life is sort of grinding to a halt due to lack of energy. I had to drop out of school this semester and important things I need to do to get moved to a new place closer to work are languishing. I basically make it through a day of work and then exhaustedly drive home and go to bed, only to start it up again the next day. Whine, whine, whine. And I can't even enjoy a glass of REAL wine!

I wasn't going to post the recipe since the thread seemed to be discussing commercial pet foods. But since DebbieP already is cooking chicken and rice, and someone else also asked, I thought the recipe might be helpful. I cook double batches in 2 big steel enameled pots. The downside is time and cost. The upside is my terriers are very healthy on it. Also, I thought it would be interesting if others respond about the nutritional content if they notice something amiss. 2 1/2 lbs ground beef (or other meat) 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 C rice, dry 1 T garlic paste 1 T wheat germ 1 T cider vinegar 1 T brewer's or nutritional yeast 1 t dried kelp 1 t bone meal 3 large carrots, grated 1/2 can green peas, mashed 1 small crown of broccoli, finely chopped 4 eggs, beaten 1/2 cup nonfat dry milk 1/2 t iodized salt 1 T flaxseed oil (add to mixture after it has cooled) Begin by boiling the ground beef in a large pot. Add garlic. As it cooks grate and add the carrot (A salad shooter is perfect for this job), chop and add the broccoli. Add water as needed to prevent sticking or burning. Stir often throughout the recipe, and add water as needed. Soak and rinse the rice several times. Add the rice and add more water. Continue to boil. Mash and add the peas. Beat and add the eggs. Add the other ingredients. Add dry milk when cooking is nearly finished. Add flaxseed oil when mixture is fairly cool and ready to be refrigerated. For variation use different meat, cottage cheese, well cooked lentils, garbanzos, lima beans. Vary the vegetable, use sweet potato, yam, spinach. Rice can be varied by using oatmeal, other grains, etc. Feed 2 times a day. --------------------------------- The Vet, Dr. Fox, recommends giving a human vitamin at the rate of 1/8th tablet per 30 lbs of body weight. I also supplement one of my dogs 125 tab of vitamin c and find it clears her runny eyes, and seems to have healed wart-like growths on her back that my vet said were common and not something to worry about. I suspect due to her age her liver is not producing enough vitamin c. My 2 other terriers appear very healthy on this diet. As I said in an earlier post, the dogs get lots of dog biscuits to keep their teeth clean. A word about poop - Since I walk my dogs nearly every day and pick up after them (I use paper lunch bags and pages torn from old telephone books), the diet makes their poop somewhat soft but still firm, and moist. It doesn't smell bad, relatively speaking. A word about breath - This diet has given my dogs a really nice breath scent. When I analysed the recipe using Dietpower and compared it with RDA's for dogs and humans, I only found problems with human RDA's. These were easily made up by adding spinach. Alas, my terriers have told me they do not like spinach...

**Also, if it so wonderful, why won't congress and the first family take this coverage** That's sort of a confusing question--it seems like you think the new law creates new insurance policies that we all have to switch to, or something? And so you're wondering why Congress and the first family don't switch to the new policies? But the law doesn't do that. There is no coverage that Congress or the Obamas, or you for that matter, could switch to. The only new coverage options are the state-run exchanges for people with preexisting conditions who cannot get insurance on the private market, and a few new options for low-income people. But if you don't have a preexisting condition that has prevented you from getting insurance, or if you aren't low-income enough, you don't qualify for those new options. So there's nothing that Congress, the first family, etc., could switch to. Under the new law, you just keep your existing insurance (or move to whatever other policy your employer offers that you want). And so does Congress and the first family. What the law does is (1) change the rules for insurance companies so that your existing insurance is more reliable, (2) requires everyone to have health insurance, and (3) creates more options for lower-income people and for people with preexisting conditions, so that such people can get insurance more easily (through state-run exchanges, Medicaid and so on). So in other words, the coverage you have under it is the same as the coverage you have now--and the coverage Congress and the first family have is the same as what they have now--except with better rules: now your insurer can't cancel you for getting sick, can't exclude your kids for pre-existing conditions, as of 2014 also won't be able to exclude adults for pre-existing conditions, has to let you keep your children on your insurance until they're 26 if you want to, can't impose a lifetime cap on benefits, and so on. As for the waiver, I really have a problem with Fox News and others leaving out a few critical details, like the fact that McDonalds, Universal Orlando (the theme park), and other very mainstream companies got it (and you can google "McDonalds political contributions" to see that most of McDonalds' donations went to Republicans), and the fact that the waiver only lasts for one year. Apparently the purpose of it is to let part-time lower-income workers keep their extremely basic plans, which do impose a lifetime cap on benefits, while the details of their new plans get ironed out and the new system gets up and running. Most employers don't offer such bare-bones plans, so they don't need a waiver. I'm also a little confused by what you said about creating dozens or hundreds of new federal agencies. Here's an article (link below) that clarifies that. I took a look at the letter you posted, but there's no sense in responding to it because it's not talking about the law that actually got passed. It's talking about certain things that, at the time the letter was written, were being considered. I'm just going to stick to the law we actually have, not a 15-month-old letter about other possibilities. But I do want to point something out--you were comparing the price projections on page 28 of the letter to your own insurance premiums in 2010. Those price projections were for 2016. Even assuming those projections turn out to be correct--which would be a total fluke, since they were based on things that did not end up being passed in the actual law--it doesn't make sense to compare your price in 2010 to a projected 2016 price and then say, based on that, that the new law is going to increase your costs.