Counter Fabrication - Bar Overhang (final question)
Okay, so I think this is my final question having to do with the fabrication of my counters.
Thanks to all the wisdom of you GW folks, I had changed my cabinet plans from a raised L-shaped bar, to a counter height bar/peninsula. And I am soooo glad I did!
The peninsula is made up of 3 parts: the base cabinet (kitchen side) with 2 deep drawers the width of the cabinet, and 2 smaller drawers above; a bookshelf (not show in the photo but would sit on the base you see at the end); and a shallow cabinet on the living room side.
I would like to create a slight overhang above the shallow cabinet to serve as a bar ... but mainly just for "perching" and not really for permanent seating. The width of the peninsula is 42" which would really only accommodate 1 -2 modest bar stools anyway (thinking of something narrow like the Tibetan from PB).
I understand that a bar overhang should probably be about 12-15" for comfortable/frequent seating, but because I will only use mine on occasion and for "perching" I was going to go with 9". The other reason that I don't want to do something deeper is that I don't want it to jet out too far into the living room and/or interfere with the traffic flow in/out of that room.
What are your thoughts?
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blackchamois
11 years agoAnd here is a photo of the peninsula from the kitchen side ...
Here is a link that might be useful: PB Tibetan Barstool
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poohpup
11 years agofishymom
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AboutToGetDusty
11 years agoblackchamois
11 years agoThanks all! I will try Pooh's suggestion of taping it off. I'll also look for some scrap cardboard and see about mocking up an extended counter top.
The "do nothing" isn't really an option. As you can see, the shallow cabinet stops midway on the wall. The wall measures 11" and the cab (without the doors) measures 6". I think it would look very odd to stop the counter midway on the wall. And I can't/won't have him rebuild the cabinet (for a 3rd time). Already paid through my nose to have him change to counter height :(
I had planned to have the counter "wrap" the wall slightly, as I've tried to show in this pic.
Thanks again! I will let you know what I decide.
breezygirl
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