Which topcoat for gel stain??
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best topcoat on General Finishes Gel Stain
Comments (7)You could use gloss, and even go through all the work of rubbing down to a satin (not easy because it's polyurethane). However, streakiness is usually due to insufficient stirring to keep the flatteners in suspension. Because Arm-R-Seal is a wiping varnish* it's more thinned than a brushing varnish so the flatteners fall out of the less viscous liquid much quicker. Thorough stirring before and regular stirring during application is important. I'd stir about every 30 seconds. Another question is how did you apply? That may also contribute to the streaks. I'd stir, put in an open top container, then dip a brush in the container to apply. Throw away anything left in your distribution container once you're done brushing on. * Despite the label saying, "Urethane and Oil Blend" (or at least it used to), it's simply a varnish. If you put a puddle on a piece of glass it will dry smooth and hard. An oil-varnish blend will dry with wrinkles in it. The more wrinkles, the higher proportion of oil to varnish. I've always said to people that this label is like putting "Flour and yeast blend" on a loaf of bread. The creation of varnish combines and cooks the ingredients (resins and oil) in a way to make a new substance, just like baking bread....See MoreGel stain or regular stain?
Comments (32)The GF gel stain can said 8 hours drying time between first and second coat. I waited 24 and it felt quite dry. I didn't think my layer was particularly thick. Sigh. Meanwhile, everything has been stripped off and I'm down to bare wood. Wiped off well with mineral spirits. Needless to say, the grain has been raised and I need to do some sanding. Tomorrow, after everything dries out and the smell of the thinner dissipates. I found a piece of unfinished wood of unknown species in my garage. I used a foam brush to apply a thin layer of gel stain. Yeah, I know, never again. :) I wiped it down before it set up. I will let that sucker cure 48 hours and then I'll put on another thin layer and see what happens. At this point I still don't know why I would want to use gel stain over GF regular oil stain. Is it ease of application? Thick and pudding-like, not runny? Because I don't need to cover or hide. I just want a nice rich deep color through which the grain is evident....See MoreShould I stain these cabinets with General Finishes Java gel stain?!
Comments (11)Take it from me, if you can afford new cabinets - do it! A fresh coat of paint or darker stain will definitely help, but you'll probably still be left feeling like your kitchen is somewhat dated. You have a great space to work with! I had the dreaded orange oak cabinets too, so I feel your pain. I couldn't afford new cabinets about 5 years ago so I painted mine. I didn't want dark/stained so I picked a soft gray color. By the time I put in new granite, BS, appliances, ect - well I should have just saved up and bought new cabinets. Oh well, lesson learned... But I DO love my kitchen after all the work. I love it wayyyyy better than my old space so I don't regret the decision to paint, it's just that my kitchen still feels dated so it's only a matter of time until the soffit comes down and I get new uppers... To sum it up, paint or stain will definitely improve the space. But new cabinets will make a bigger impact so if you can afford replacing everything then go for it. If you do paint, use quality paint. It's not cheap. I used BM Advanced paint. I won't use anything else going forward. I have found dried food on my cabinets and picked it off with my fingernail and the paint never chips or comes off. Here are two examples in my home. The first is my kitchen. I painted instead of replacing the cabinets. I love the space but it's not my dream space. before after Now here's my second example. This time we replaced the ugly oak cabinet. See what I mean by new cabinets making a bigger impact?...See MoreDarker floor stain colors - experiences? Tips? Will topcoat lighten?
Comments (7)So first off, ALWAYS have a coat of the finish applied to the colour patches. Always. Never ever choose a colour without seeing the colour patch WITHOUT the finish. No. The finish does NOT lighten the colour. If you are seeing "almost black" right now, it is probably because it is a very dark stain. But again, you CANNOT choose a colour WITHOUT the finish. The finish will add a 'depth' of colour. It will show the highlights and lowlights of a colour (just like in woman's hair colouring solutions). You cannot see the full spectrum of colour with raw stain on raw hardwood. And yes....dark floors are very hard to live with (especially if you HATE dust, lint, hair, rug fibers, etc that are VISIBLE on your floors). I always say that dark floors should come with a live in maid. They are Divas. Expect them to demand a lot of service. If you are happy to do the work to keep them looking clean, then you are welcome to go with a dark colour. If not, then you better find another option. You won't be happy with all the effort it takes to keep them looking clean....See Morenosoccermom
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