Gel stain to take orange out of Oak Cabs
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Are these cabs cherry? Paint? Glaze? Med.brown gel stain?
Comments (18)I think I would try changing out the hardware and painting the background wall color above the cabs something dark like a rich chocolate brown. Or a deeper green. That would allow the lighter cabnets to really pop and take center stage. If that doens,t make enough of a change in the room for you then glazing may just be the right thing to do. I think with those cabs glazing could well be the answer your looking for if they were done with a base color thats opposite on the color wheel it would really help to cut the orange your not liking and glazing would be a easier option than a major allover color change. To get a solid color change that matchs on that many cabs would be more difficult then a glaze. I would def. try painting that upper background color first though. I think it would give that kitchen the pop of color it needs to really stand out....See MoreWould my kitchen be too dark if I gel stained my oak?
Comments (15)Sorry to bring up an old post - i'm hoping the OP is still around - my wife and I are looking to refinish our cabinets using this gel stain. It appears your cabinets are the exact same color and construction as ours. Our concern is even though the front fascia and doors appear to be real wood, the sides are laminate paper. Were your cabinets the same way? If so, did you notice a difference in finish color between the laminate and wood? How many coats did you apply? I took an old bool shelf which is the same color as the sides of our cabinets with laminate paper over particle board and when I went to stain it with General Finishes brown mahogany, it came out way way lighter then your door picture above which I assume is real wood. With the attached picture, each quarter in the test piece is a different sand paper grit. Top right is 600, Top Left is 400, Bottom left is 320 and bottom right is 150 grit. The more course, the darker it was we found. I personally like the 400 grit sample, but i'm afraid the doors and fronts won't match once stained. Hoping you can provide some advice! This post was edited by adgjqetuo on Mon, Jan 12, 15 at 15:00...See MoreWant to gel stain kitchen cabs. Look ok?
Comments (89)Technicolor - After reading your original post again, I never thought about porch and floor paint but that would make sense. What brand (Ace?) were you talking about? Oh, and wouldn't you still need to sand - at least scuff sand and use a (bonding) primer like Zinsser first? *NOTE - Just a general heads up, I don't recommend anyone using SW Porch and Floor paint. Total crap. I supposedly got a 'bad batch' (it never got past tacky and I went above and beyond to do that job right.) and had to redo my stair project which was MISERABLE. They gave me a new gallon of paint and threw in some tape and sandpaper but that still didn't fix my stairs. I was told they were discontinuing the product but I believe it's still available. Your kitchen sounds really pretty. And I like red - have a bathroom painted BM Moroccan Red. You think bb around my DR side too? "My senses tell me it is the dining room that is making this so difficult for you. I know you don't want to change it, but the styles are clashing regardless of color." I almost hate to ask, but can you be more specific? I look at it everyday and I'm sure can't 'see' it like someone else. I'm assuming it's too formal/stuffy for the kitchen side? I've been trying to get away from that a bit, tho the rug didn't bother me enough to make it a replacing priority right now. I figured I'd have a better chance of stumbling across art I liked first. Even if I had more money, I don't know what I'd pick or replace first. Ha, it's a little tough to change anything if you don't have a clear game plan. It's interesting, in the past when I had a project, I'd throw ideas out and go back and forth, back and forth with what I wanted to do and I always have to WAIT, sometimes months, until I figure out what's going to work for me. I wish I knew how to speed the process up. I'll post a photo with the new hardware on when it comes....See MoreAlder takes stain more red than Hemlock and Oak?!
Comments (5)Sorry, I thought the problem was more intensity that redness. To address too much red: First, run a trial with your top coat of finish. This often tones things down. To kill red, you apply green (its color opposite). In the stain palette, this is usually raw umber. God knows what the stain manufacturers might call this. You might ask the paint store to give you a squirt or two of raw umber UTC in a jar you've taken in. One of the stains I use can be a shocking cordovan color on some woods. A treatment with brown glaze really settles it down. In short, you are going to have to run some test panels, through to completion, to find the best solution....See Morebaileyandbella
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13 years agoI wanted to do my kitchen cabinets to match my new wood floors, so I experimented with the bathroom cabinets and was glad I did although it didn't take long to figure out the best way to do it.
Here's what I had before I started staining.
And the floor I wanted to match
{{!gwi}}This is the cabinet with all but one drawer done. It's not as red as it looks in this photo and the drawers don't have dark edges, probably because I took it at night and I had all the lights on and the flash.
Close up of upper cabinet taken today showing wood grain
{{!gwi}}The crown molding on top of the cabinet is new wood and did take the stain differently. It is red oak molding so the color matches but amount of gloss is very different. I also added trim around the mirror and couldn't find oak so had to use birch. It doesn't have any red in it at all and I wish I had stained it with an orangy oak and then used topcoat on both the mirror frame and the crown molding before going over them with the gel stain.
I put three coats of gel finish over the gel stain but was still concerned that it might not hold up well around the sink with water dripping on it, so I experimented. I had the same cabinets in the garage so took a drawer and taped it into three sections. One section has the gel stain and 3 coats of gel finish. One section has the gel stain and 3 coats satin spar varnish, and one section has the gel stain, 3 coats of gel finish, and 3 coats of spar varnish. I put all the finish coats on with a rag so it wouldn't have brush marks. I was afraid the urethane might change the look but all three looked and felt the same.
After they cured for a couple of weeks, I put a wet washcloth over each section and let it sit for 12 hours. Afterward, they all looked the same, except it did raise the grain on the section with 3 coats of gel finish, so I am going to go over the front of the sink cabinet again with a couple of coats of the spar varnish.
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