I think this is the best of the ones you had, but I'm very concerned about the lack of space by the cooktop. We had that situation in our last house, and it was certainly workable, but not the ideal in planning a new kitchen.

The prep sink should slide right so it's on the corner of the island and reachable from the cooktop. We put our faucet on the diagonal, so the sink is usable from 2 sides.

The dbl oven location is not good...When open, the hot door will be across the doorway to and from the patio.

If you had the range on the back wall, you could still have lots of window.

Thanks rhome for your suggestions. I'd really like to preserve the view of the backyard from the front hallway opening so I don't want the oven to be on the right side of the back wall. If it is on the left side, it interferes with the screened porch door and we will use the cooktop a lot more than the double ovens (which may not even exist if we get a slide in range).

Do you think that switching the fridge with the 24 inch pantry would work, enlarging the counter on the right of the range to 27 inches? On the left side of the range, I have that whole corner of counter to work with.

Are you suggesting that the prep sink be on the window side of the island, on the corner near the cooktop? Good idea about putting the faucet on the diagonal.

thanks
Nancy

You could flip the oven in the island. Trade for the left hand drawer stack on the other side.

Isn't that left hand stack where rhome is recommending the prep sink? That oven is the sharp microwave drawer, thought it would be good to have that easily available to the family room and eating area.

Ah. I don't know which piece of island I'd put the extra sink in...

For me - towards the family room side on on the left or right - there are arguments for both. I think I most like (don't fall over) two of them - one on the dining room side of the island towards the ref and one at "butler's pantry"

Have you tried cooktop in corner? I forget, I'm sorry. I can see why you might like ref there, but I wouldn't like jamming my elbow into the ref when cooking.

I'm not sure what other things you have already tried, but what I think I'd want to try would be --

--make the wall where the fridge is a wall of talls -- fridge, ovens, pantry, etc.
-- stick your broom closet and screened porch storage over in the corner by the door to the screened porch
--put the cooktop in the center of the window wall. With the wall of talls, you might be able to keep as much window space or even make it larger, depending on how many uppers you need
-- divide the butlers pantry and put it on the far ends of that wall with the sink in the center -- maybe even open up a window out to the porch. Your clean up zone would be placed well for the breakfast table, dining room our screened porch
-- prep sink at the end of the island that is drawn on the back left in the first drawing

For me, the 24" pantry location would be a terrible place for the fridge. Way too much trouble to get to while cooking. I would much rather leave it as is, since, as I said, I know that's not a terrible situation to live with. Exactly how much room is there between stove and fridge? I had only 12".

For the prep sink, I meant the corner of the island so it can be accessed from both the stove and the table sides...So the corner pointing toward the fridge and family room. (Table side, right end)

Corner cooktops aren't the best choice for everyone, but with the short stove side and long sink run, it could be just the answer you need to keep the fridge handy to the stove, and still not ruin anything else that works about your layout. Good call, Bmore.

How about putting the pantry and maybe the broom closet where you now have the ovens and make a baking ctr and oven area beside the butler's pantry? You could then use the table side of the island for bigger baking projects and it'd be handy to the prep sink in the location I suggested.

Here is a visual, including Bmore's corner cooktop:

That's a very creative idea. Looks like I'd lose the uppers pretty much though. Thanks for the mockup- that helps!
Nancy

Possibly fix that by moving the mixer to butler's pantry, move the screen porch storage to former mixer area, pantry slides over and you get wall cabinets back on the left of the windows.

The uppers that were on the window wall just moved to the baking/mixer area. The uppers are kind of changed to work around the corner cooktop, but you now have uppers where the cooktop hood used to be...Unless you eliminate them over by the cooktop, because of not figuring out how to make them look right around the hood, there's really not a great loss of actual upper space, I don't think. Maybe I'm missing something?

Yeah, but I think she wants them for dishes?
Mixer could also move to left of window.

My layout was also challenging because I insisted on a 10-foot window overlooking our backyard and woods. I had to make some compromises because of it. One thing I would never compromise in a space as large as yours is adequate workspace around the cooktop. I would lose the desk or the butler's pantry if I had to.

Just curious, can the door to the porch move?

I like rhome's plan. I'd put a dish hutch with enough room to store both dishes and food to the left of the left-side dishwasher, move porch storage to other side of the door, incorporate more pantry storage next to the ovens and lose either the butler's pantry or desk.

I have actually been wondering the purpose of the butler's pantry. Can that become pantry? Like Erika said, I would love a dish hutch where I show the pantry and part of the patio storage now. But wait...I see a 'pantry' doorway at the center bottom of the room. Do you need that 24" pantry? Seems the pantry, storage, and butler's pantry, in addition to a main pantry, might be functionally redundant?

thanks for the comments!

erikanh, your kitchen is one of the inspirations for that big window wall! thank you!

I met with the architect this morning and she immediately said the range in my plan was crowded. She also said that people generally didn't like the range in the corner because of feeling crowded, and two people couldn't cook at the same time(which does happens in our home). So back to the drawing board, have to fiddle more with this. May have to put the range on the window wall after all,and have two medium windows instead of one large one. I will try out lascatx's plan for this.

I really appreciate the suggestions about a nice dish hutch by the screened room door, that would look nice and be useful.

rhome, I have a small shallow pantry closet for canned foods where that "pantry" door is beside the basement door. Not nearly enough dry food storage. The "butler's pantry" is intended more as a beverage center, that's why I had it near the eating area.

OK back to the drawing board.
Nancy

You might ask your architect about pulling the cooktop cabinet forward 3 to 6" from the window - see if that's enough to get you by code review? Also consider a fixed glass panel (picture window) behind the cooktop area flanked by operable windows.

Either way, you need an island hood.