Trailrunner's is Miele. I know that that what impressed me in her description was something about a place where little bits that fall off sink to, and something about where the colder oil goes. I know that's vague, but, as I said, it was impressive. :) She's the only one I know who has a fryer. I don't know about choosing between Wolf and Gaggenau other than both are excellent at the other things they offer. ;) I have the vacuum sealer (a new purchase), steam oven (Gagg), and under counter fridge drawers. I gather you're using your vacuum sealer for sous vide. Mine is mostly for freezing. There might be some point in choosing a sealer that is made by the same company as your circulator to make sure that the seal is correct. You might benefit from posting your plans in the Kitchens forum for the very clever people to help with. My first impression is that it would be great to have a cabinet, with or without doors, with outlets, and heavy duty rollouts for the slicer, sealer, circulator, et al. It would make it so much easier to use, and to compact that way. That is...if the circulator is manual drain. If it's plumbed, you probably want it in the vicinity of the steam oven to keep the plumbing sane. You say "dream kitchen", so I'll ask the tough question: Have you used a French top regularly? Or a plancha? I'm not sure you really need both for home cooking. I was all set to buy the Gaggenau teppan yaki (oh, pitter pat!) but decided I wanted the cabinet space underneath more, and they'd just raised the price, so I gave it a pass. When I started out, I was convinced I wanted a French top, but there were some pros here who were talking about how they were moving away from those and using vacuum bottles to hold sauces and such like. That actually made a lot more sense to me than having uneven heat in the pans and all of that. Plus, the amount of energy and time that it takes to heat up the French top wasn't worth it. That's where I segued into the teppen yaki, then decided I really wanted to cook on induction and changed my plan to half induction, half gas, no specialty units. I have no trouble using a cast iron plate for anything I'd have been using the teppan yaki or a plancha for, and the excellent temperature control of the Gaggenau induction and Wolf gas handles anything I would have done on the French Top. Much less romance, lots of utility. Just offering my experience as a check. If you have the space and want the romance, by all means go for it! I LOVE my fridge drawers. They're the one don't really need it toy I just had to have. I had wanted fridge drawers in my prep area since I first saw some. Mine are Marvel. The best feature is the depth of the bottom drawer, which holds standing opened wine bottles. I also had the sense that they had more usable space than the other 24" units I'd seen. The worst feature is that they're loud when they cycle. Not a bother when the rest of the kitchen is running, but a bit shocking if one is sitting quietly. I also adore the Gaggenau combi-steam. I hate blanching and steaming the old fashioned way. Just tossing them in, and being able to check progress and pop them back and all of it is just wonderful. The regenerate setting is amazing. You put in a plate of cold leftovers all made up, and it comes out with everything warm, and nothing overcooked, shriveled, or petrified. I mostly use it for steaming vegetables and as a secondary oven when I'm making several mains, but my kitchen isn't completely finished, so I haven't gotten into a lot of experimenting, yet.

advisor: I am not sure about your post but I will respond. I talked at length with Al when I got my Caldera. My DS and DIL both graduated from NECI and used Caldera at the culinary school. It is how I found out about the product. They are made perfectly and perform year in and year out flawlessly. They are extremely well made and make all other expensive brands look pale in comparison. People are paying huge bucks for Blue Star and Culinarian and French brands and my made in the USA gas cooktop out performs them in all ways. Of course this is my opinion only based on the performance we have had and the skilled chefs we have using the equipment and of course the perfect food we prepare year in and year out...look at the pics ! You are wrong on all counts concerning no grilling or high heat/pro cooking. You are also wrong about the venting. The lowest speed is so quiet and powerful on the Tradewind that we use it for everything but the stirfry and grilling. For those we use medium. The point of " more than you need" in cfm's is due to the law of physics that causes the air to actually recirculate and come back of you have too much turbulence in the duct, this can happen on high. So you get more than you need and use it on slightly less....the cost of more cfm's is actually very little and this solves all ventilation problems. dee: you are correct about an inline silencer...they are cheap and work perfectly, I have one. But you are wrong about the hugely expensive Blue Star and Culinarian. It is way overprices and not needed. If a person gets the Caldera , which is still available and a good double oven they will do so well. Have work areas in 2 different places and way way less money. JMHO....c

Ok. Beer definitely helps. I was pretty sure it would. Here's some more info that's probably fairly important. We have a 10' ceiling in the kitchen and 8' in the entry and pantry. And we already have purchased a 30" range. Probably shouldn't have, but felt it was too good a deal to pass up. Also, we're not big on bar-style eating areas. I also have the option of opening up the wall between the kitchen and pantry all the way. Bmore's 2nd layout actually shows the pantry door where it's currently located. I was going to move it to give a free corner. The ceiling heights would be different, of course, and I'm sure I'd have to but a big header across, lower the opening even further. I like the concept of the stove in the peninsula, but I'm worried that venting it there would be prohibitively expensive. I assume the dashed line denotes a height difference? The range being lower than the surrounding area?

@User @Anne Mulholland Cleaning is the one thing that I really dislike about the oven. But to be far I would hate cleaning any oven :) The top cooktop is extremely easy to clean. Most of the time I just use soap and water. Maybe once a week I will use Cerama Bryte to really polish the top and make it look new again. The grill is easy for the most part. The heavy metal rack and tray\basin can be just washed normally in the sink alone with the aluminum housing it sits on. The steal tray\bason that the rack sits in get discolored and nothing I have tried will remove it. The aluminum housing can also be removed and cleaned. What I dislike about the grill is there is no way that I can see to clean the top were the element is. If anyone has figured that out let me know. The actual ovens are about the same as every other oven that I've had that does not have the self cleaning feature. In my case, I removed the oven racks and the easy slider racks and bottom panel that @A Bowditch referred to. These can all be cleaned in the sink. Even though the manual has instructions on how to remove the vertical side rails that he racks lock on to, I could not remove them. (Cleaning would have been a lot easier once removed). I also removed the back plate that the fan sits behind. Then I used a oven cleaner that was recommended to me by a friend and let it sit overnight. I did not use anything like easy-off as i read that this could damage some ovens and I didn't want to risk it. Some hard to remove spots required the help of a razor blade to help remove. All in all I wish this oven had a self cleaning option, but without being able to remove the side rails i don't know if i would trust using it anyway. Hope that helps.