How deep should a proper appliance garage be?
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armomto3boys
14 years agoI just measured mine, they are 19 1/4 ", outside dimensions. I knew which microwave I was going to get, so we made sure it would fit. The lowers are 25 1/4".
granite-girl
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Comments (3)As deep as your stool seat and room for knee clearance for any corbels. I wish my overhang was a bit deeper myself. Also, if you have granite, do not forget to get the heavy gauge steel plate under the entire counter top for support. Here's a photo (during the modification of cabinets and failed finish) of the metal plate that is probably bullet proof thickness! If you do not use a metal plate, (some people use plywood, which brings other problems), then your granite could crack should someone plop their fanny up on the counter to sit when you're not there and it not have proper support. Things go on in your home when you're not there and kiddos are left alone... no matter what their ages! I know of a teen boy that jumped off an island counter years ago and the counter cracked because it did not have proper support. It fell a few minutes later. And corbels or L brackets are not real support; they are decorative. Here is a link that might be useful:...See MoreAppliance garage questions
Comments (7)Standard tambour appliance garages are 18" high, as that's the standard space between upper cabinets and base cabinets. Countertop MWs are pretty deep (around 18" or deeper) unless you're talking a teensy one like you'd find in a dorm room, and those are at least 15" deep. There's only so much that can be done with stock cabinetry, and if the cabinet line doesn't even have slide out shelves, it's unlikely that they carry tambour appliance garages or extra depth cabinets. You can find the hardware for the pocket door cabinet, but you'd need a very good and experienced cabinet installer to be able to create what you want when so little pieces are available from your cabinet line. Really, you seem to want so much more than your cabinet line can offer that you might benefit from just accepting the stock builder's grade cabinetry and laminate counters (get a credit for the granite) and then ordering new cabinets from a line that offers exactly what you want from the beginning. Retrofitting cabinetry to the degree you're talking costs a LOT more than getting it the way you want from the beginning....See MoreHow deep should a reach-in pantry be?
Comments (6)I'll add that you can see that most of these shelves really aren't that deep. Unless you're going to do roll-outs, things can get lost behind other stuff, never to be found again until past expiration, if you have a lot of deep shelves. You might have deeper shelves at the bottom for bigger stuff like that 30# container of flour or that flat of water bottles and such but you will want less deep shelves (10-14" max) for things like spices, seasonings, and canned goods. Shelves sized just an inch or so taller than cans are great for canned goods so you don't have to stack them. If you eat a lot of cereal, another shelf sized for the cereal boxes would be handy. So really think about what you want to store and where in your pantry you want to store it. Also consider adjustable shelving so you can change things up if your needs change or you have estimated your needs wrong. Also, even if you don't anticipate actually using appliances inside your pantry, you might as well wire a plug-in inside just in case you change your mind down the road. It would be easiest to do it while down to the studs already....See MoreHELP!!! Out of time, where should microwave go, appliance garages
Comments (22)While Sophie is definitely blunt, I do think you need to take a step back and reconsider the layout of your kitchen overall. I honestly think you could have a better functioning kitchen. A few things I see. You have tons of space on either side of the cooktop, but not enough space on either side of the sink, yet on the side of the sink is where most prep work is done. You are seriously lacking drawers. If you do nothing else, switch all the cabinets you can from pull outs to drawers. You'll be forever grateful as it's easier on your back, and when the drawer is pulled out you can see exactly what you have. Also you can get more into a drawer than you can into a cabinet. Having the sink lined up with the cooktop is actually not good ergonomically in that you have to pivot from one to the other which can be dangerous. You're better off offsetting the sink. With such a large kitchen you'd actually be better off with a separate prep sink and a separate cleanup sink. I know you are concerned with symmetry but you'll find like I did in my old kitchen that the only time you notice if everything is symmetrical is when you're standing straight in front. Otherwise, you won't notice it. My last kitchen was symmetrical. My new one is so far from symmetrical but it will still look gorgeous and will function even better than my last one. I personally love appliance garages. Just make sure you have them where you'll be using them. I would highly recommend a drawer microwave. I had one in my condo and am putting one in my new build. Lastly, before you pull the trigger, I want to second the idea that you float your layout in the kitchen forum and have the gurus there see if they can actually come up with something better. Over a year ago, there was another woman who came onto the kitchen forum insisting she had to order cabinets the next day. The kitchen forum got her to stop, take a step back and rethink her kitchen. She did and her kitchen now not only functions beautifully but is a true showstopper in how it looks. And she admits it was the best thing to wait and get it right....See Moreannab6
14 years agoarmomto3boys
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lowspark
14 years agopeggross1
14 years agoIn case it is helpful, I thought I'd post pics of our appliance garage even though it is not a flip up/down type of door like the OP asked about.
I needed depth for our toaster oven but didn't have the space to make the garage deeper due to the proximity to a window. We are very happy with this recessed solution. There is a BR closet on the other side of the wall - the space between the sheetrock made the difference for us!
The interior is a hair under 17" and we had an outlet installed inside, of course.
View with door closed
annab6
14 years agopeggross1
14 years agoThe upper cabinets are not at all recessed. The interior, of the garage-only, IS recessed. I'll take a picture that will also show you what NOT to do.
1) A worker "forgot" about the recessed cabinet while working in the closet behind it and put a screw through my cabinet material (see orange flag on left side). Just one of thousands of screw ups we've learned to live with (did I mention I hate my contractor at this point? We still have a HUGE punchlist for a project he was supposed to have finished in March 2008.)
2) the countertop fabricator was not shown the recessed cabinet so he assumed the rear dimension and installed the counter with a major piece missing! They didn't even mention it to us; I noticed the first time I opened the garage and freaked out bc the rear 4.24" of my garage had no counter! If this had been done properly there shouldn't be a seam in there (see orange flag on counter). BE THERE WHEN YOUR COUNTERS ARE TEMPLATED! YOUR CONTRACTOR DOESN'T NECESSARILY GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THE DETAILS! (and if he does, kiss his feet!) (Now I'm noticing the not-flush plate cover again - grrrrrr. You'd think they didn't BUILD that wall and install that new electric! MAN!)
(whew - sorry for the rant, but warning you all means reliving it a bit for me -- I think I need a break from GW for a bit.)
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14 years ago
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