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Paneled Warming Drawer w/ Inset?

13 years ago

Has anybody done a paneled warming drawer (I think Dacor, Miele and Wolf are the brands that can accept a panel) in a kitchen with inset cabinetry? We're trying to do this and our contractor doesn't think it can be done; if we want a panel then it would need to be an overlay panel (which would look very funny in the middle of an entire run of inset drawers). That, or do the WD in stainless steel.

Any advice? Would deeper cabinets solve the problem?

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archnista
13 years ago
No. The trim around the warming drawer door is designed to sit on the cabinet frame and not inside it, so deeper cabinets wouldnt solve the issue. If you put a panel on it, it will be an overlay. I think you should just do the WD in SS...otherwise, a panel will contradict the look of the inset cabinetry.
plllog
13 years ago
I have a 3/4" slab panel on my Monogram.

Looking at it, I don't see why it couldn't be done inset. Are your cabinets custom? The trick would be to make the opening the correct size, with a stop rail inside of the stiles for the panel. The overall size would have to be a litle bit bigger than the drawer ordinarily calls for. I guess what I mean is that there would be a box inside the cabinet frames to hold the warming drawer, and the WD panel would overlay the interior box and be flush with the framing of the cabinetry.

Additionally, in the Appliance forum, before I bought mine, there was a lot of discussion about the depth of warming drawers and obstacles to getting the panels flush. There are some brands that do better than others. I think it was the Miele that admitted that the panel would stick out. I know when I was at the Miele showroom they said that one would have to cut down the depth of the panel for a standard installation flush mount.

I mentioned all this to my cabinetmaker, and he said, "Of course!" That all the panels and doors (everything but the ovens) would make my cabinets 25" deep overall. I don't know if that's just his standard, or if that's something about panels, or what. The WD was installed by his foreman and was no trouble.
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What about the Kitchen Aid warming drawer (link below)? It seems to deliver all the goods plus functions as a slow cooker for a lot less than the Wolf. I don't like the location of the Wolf warming drawer's controls. They seem vulnerable to spills. The Dacor we used in our last house lacked crisp/moist controls and gave the installer fits (which, I accept, probably says more about the installer). Our designer wants us to put the warming drawer in a stack below a pair of ovens (or an oven and a microwave). I prefer to have the warming drawer higher than that and also want it in a location where it can be accessed at the same time someone is tending to the oven(s). Whatever we choose, our new warming drawer will almost certainly go in the island (where there will be plenty of depth), either on the far side from the ovens and cooktop or opposite the space between them. Here is a link that might be useful: Kitchen Aid 30 Inch Custom Panel Warming Drawer
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It's not made to do this. They have a fully integrated warming drw. with a different SKU to meet that need. If you want a paneled warmer drawer , you buy that model. You might be able to remove the ss front ( they put it on so someone can get it off) without damaging anything and get replacement parts to convert it. Problem is you are going to have to do the legwork, engineering and labor. Dacor prob. won't be much help except to point you to a vendor that'll sell you parts.
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LWO--Kay's WD will not be 5" off the floor. She has a 10.5" drawer below the WD. So 10.5" plus 4-5" toe kick = 14.5-15.5" off the floor. The handle will be even higher than that. I DO use my warming drawer under my double oven stack. It's just above the floor in the no-no spot. I use it because I have a need. We do use it for waffles like you propose and for many other items. My waffles are crisp because mine has a "moist/dry" slider function. Once you get used to it, I think you'll be glad you have it. Yours won't even be at the floor like mine is so it'll be easier to get in and out of. Can you have your cab maker fabricate a panel front for it? I was surprised how little my cab maker charged me for my WD panel. I agree about watching eBay for a panel. You never now what will show up.
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Can you please keep all of your questions confined to one single post. 5 different ones doesn't get you the responses that you need and it makes gathering information to actually respond to you difficult. You should edit this post (look on the right hand side) and delete your question and then put your followup question in one of your other existing posts.
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lascatx
13 years ago
As far as depth goes, the Dacor indoor/outdoormodel was the only one on the market that was less than 24" deep when we got ours. It is made to fit a bathroom cabinet that is 21" deep, so that might help you if you don't want to bump everything out to 25".
firstmmo
13 years ago
I have an inset cabinet with a warming drawer. Here it is before the panel was put on:
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User
13 years ago
sorry archnista - but as you can see you are just flat out wrong!

Warming drawers that accept panels can be used in framed inset cabinetry. You simple need to plan out the construction, and ACTUALLY increasing the depth of the warming drawer or all cabinets is almost always the first step.

As you can see from MP's pics you'll need to account that most warmer drawers are around 10" tall and a std. drawer is 4-6" so consideration needs to be given to the overall look of the elevation that the WD is going into.

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