Help me decide...Pella , Marvin Ulimate, or Andersen Woodwright
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Marvin Integrity Quote vs Andersen 100's
Comments (11)You're correct; I misspoke. I should have said "composite" window. The Andersens are made from a composite product called Fibrex, which is basically wood mixed with a resin-type material. From what I've read, it isn't as strong as the Ultrex fiberglass that Marvin uses, but I'm not sure if the Ultrex is $8500 more impressive. We don't want to go with the 400s because we don't want the maintenance with the wood portions of the windows. I looked over the two quotes closely this morning. The substantial difference is in the fixed glass (solid single pane) picture windows. The Integrity windows are more than double the price of the 100s for these fixed windows. For casements and other opening windows, the prices were not substantially different. I guess I'm not sure why these fixed windows are more than double the price? Thoughts??...See MoreAndersen, Marvin, or Kolbe
Comments (60)Inserts are fine if your original windows were installed really well and there are no air leaks etc. around the old frames. In my case, I'm dealing with a 100 year old home. 30 odd years ago someone came along and did aluminum insert windows. So they hauled out the double hung sashes and slapped aluminum inserts in the cavity. What they of course missed was the fact that the original wood windows were installed with little to no insulation around the rough framing and the brick walls, and the wood window frame itself just sits nailed into the rough framing with little to no insulation (no spray foam in 1910). Plus, there are massive cavities on either side of each window where the counter weights still reside. Nice big open unsealed uninsulated cavities. On top of that, the lathe and plaster construction on the interior of the solid brick walls is such that there is a 1 inch cavity behind all the plaster (vertical strapping on the walls to which the horizontal lathe is nailed). So, all the nice cold air comes in around the old window frames and permeates the walls. Runs into the floor and ceiling joists and continues its journey putting a chill through the house. Factor in a 3 story house with very tall 5-6 foot windows and you get a ton of heat loss. In this case, a full tear-out is the only thing worth doing. Interior trim is all going, the counterweights will come out, loads of spray foam will go in around the rough framing to seal to the brick walls, and the new windows will be installed properly in the rough framing sealed up with more foam. Fresh trim inside and out. Expensive yes, but the only reason to do this is to make the house more comfortable. The few dollars we might save in heating and cooling costs are irrelevant. So again, if the current windows are installed well and you have no heat loss around them, inserts are fine....See MoreMarvin: Can't find Air Infiltration Specs
Comments (63)All this talk about Air Infiltration is making me rethink our project. The original window schedule for our great room is to have two 30 x 72 casements in the center, flanked by pairs of 30 x 60 casements (6 windows total). We now are planning to change the 30 x 72 openable casements to fixed windows, and mull together the two pairs of 30 x 60 casements, still openable. Now I am thinking about changing the mulled together pairs to 60 x 60 fixed picture windows and return the 30 x 72 casements to being openable. All are triple-paned with low-E Ar-filled. These plans are using Marvin Integrity, but we are also thinking about Loewen. Total cost for 30 windows, including the aqbove 6, is $26,000....See MoreFull Replacement Questions, Resources?!? Woodwright vs. E-series?
Comments (25)Bumping this thread after two years because I don't understand those Consumer Reports ratings either (the ratings referred to above are still the current ones). Would any of the Pros care to speak to this? Marvin was not even on the list, and it was in the top tier a year or two before the current list. Pella is near top of the current list and not a favored brand here. Kolbe (another favorite) is way down the list. Consumer Reports is an independent and trustworthy source for most of us so thanks for helping us understand!...See Moresurfsidebuilders
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