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Sheila Medford
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Comments (11)Awning type windows are often combined with other windows so to accommodate that installation without making another window model, all 4 sides are usually treated the same. The standard jamb depth of the Integrity awning window is 4 9/16" so to install it in a wall with larger than 2x4 studs Marvin offers extension jambs. The extension jambs have a hidden rabbet that forces the trim to be placed as your carpenter has installed them. What he did differently from the standard Marvin detail is to use a projecting "stool" trim at the bottom instead of using extension trim on all 4 sides. He chose to position it the same as the other 3 sides so it would match. To do otherwise without creating an unattractive groove would require making a stool trim that would extend over the frame to the sash stop with a cutout for the operating hardware which would provide a smooth traditional stool. This is not a detail a carpenter would be likely to assume you wanted because it is considerably more expensive and "non-standard" in today's market. The reveal for the Integrity Awning is small. On the Marvin Ultimate Awning it is about 5/8". The detail on the Ultimate Double-Hung still allows a traditional stool....See MoreMarvin Integrity Window Review
Comments (238)Why I will not buy Marvin Window Products and neither should you. In 2004 we renovated our kitchen, replacing three windows and one door with Marvin Windows. At the time we purchased Marvin because I felt they were high quality. Marvin’s website says, “We are committed to design that is as functional and intuitive as it is beautiful. Crafted with exceptional skill, our products deliver quality you can see, touch, and feel, the beauty that brings joy, and performance that stands the test of time.“ My view of the ‘test of time’ for windows that I put in my home is a long time, decades. Apparently, Marvin’s test is dramatically shorter. Less than 20 years after installation I noticed that the window had rotted all the way through the frame. I am not sure how many years it took to decay, but clearly it did not happen overnight. Their test of time failed quickly. I called Marvin and was told that the warranty is only 10 years. I understand how warranties work and asked for Marvin’s help repairing the window. They said they would not offer any help since they no longer make the model. I called dozens of companies and was told these Marvin windows were not repairable. I am left with one window out of six that failed out of warranty but clearly started failing years ago before the warranty had expired. I now need to replace all of my kitchen windows in order to have a consistent look. I thought that maybe this is a one-time issue and not very widespread. It turns out Marvin lost a class action lawsuit on this very issue. https://www.yourlawyer.com/construction-defects/marvin-windows-lawsuit/. Apparently, their product team feels they can continue to turn out products that do not stand the test of time. Marvin’s marketing department may tell you they are committed to a lot of things but it is clearly a lot of marketing and they do not stand behind the actual quality of their windows. So when you look to purchase windows for your home my strong recommendation is to look at anyone other than Mavin....See MoreWindow options: windsor vs marvin integrity and 2604 vs 2605 coat
Comments (5)Personally I have a disdain for Windsor anything, but that goes back some years. I do not sell residential products these days but still no plenty of people in the business and they will not sell anything Windsor. That being said I have heard nothing to chnage my mind about the Pinnacle series. Marvin Integrity is a good product, you will hear people speak of a finish issue back a few yeras but from what I understand Marvin has made good on all issues and has addressed and fixed the issues. It's not if there is an issue its what you do to remedy and assure the issue is not on going that is the biggest thing in my opinion. Now, Intergity is a Wood Ultrex or all Ultrex product (fiberglass) where the Pinnacle is an aluminum clad. If I were going to use an aluminum clad product without a doubt the 2605 finish would be the way I would go. You can also post this in the window forum here on Gardenweb for the pro's there to offer their opinions....See MoreMarvin Integrity and Pella for new build
Comments (44)Here's my problem with Pella: I am an architect, and my office specializes in higher-end residential work, so we do specify a lot of windows. In my area, Pella's marketing is aggressive to the point of being obnoxious, and I can't help but wonder "if the product compares well to Marvin or Integrity, why not just let that speak for itself?" It's nearly impossible to get an apples-to-apples comparison of price between any brands, but another thing I've noticed is that Pella's number will look lower--at first. But you have to be extremely scrupulous to make sure they are pricing what you want. By the time you've discovered that Pella omitted something that any other vendor would consider standard (say, screens for your windows,) the price has crept back up to be just as much as the better window. I often feel pressured to consider Pella, probably because there are Pella salespeople literally chasing after me, my builders and even my clients. In my experience, none of the Pella sales people has a fraction of the knowledge that other window dealers have (Marvin/Andersen/Jeld-Wen.) The company appears to spend a ton of money wooing architects, designers, and builders, and that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. For something as important as windows, I wouldn't take the risk. Also: your builder should absolutely weigh in. Good luck to you....See MoreWindows on Washington Ltd
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