Bizydiggin-Oh but don't despair...you have not left earthquakes behind when you came to OK...just in the past few years we have had several. We had one which knocked foundations off and made people think an explosion had occurred in their neighborhood. Then several others followed. Having never experienced earthquakes they are more eery and unsettling to me...I can see the clouds and know something is coming to hide or prepare...there is no radar to warn of earthquakes....lol Guess it is just in what you are used to dealing with. I have had others from CA to say the same thing you say. Dawn--We stayed okay all the rest of the day after that flood we got yestderday close to noon. How did you all do through the night? I am hearing thunder like crazy so someone is getting it this morning. The radar shows Lawton area to be getting drenched. This thunder I hear is coming from the west..it must not be far away. I just went out and looked and we have clouds moving from the NE of us and heading SW...hope the storms which sat over northeastern OK the last couple of days are not backing up and heading down here. How are all the rest of you guys doing? Still getting flooding rains? Randy how is your back property doing now? Did you get more rain yesterday? Well it looks like for yet another day we will all keep our eyes to the skies....hahaha. I have been a weather watcher for years but I am doing more of it this year than for a number of years all put together. Come on SUNSHINE! Ya'll have a safe day. Endure...it will get better.......won't it? hahaha G.M.

God bless you too, Lu. I stopped by to say a prayer for all those who are grieving today. May your memories of your loved ones give you some comfort. love, cocooner

dear justine grower, I have lurked at your last post and having witnessed the end of my mothers no good marriage, and remembering my position as her young daughter at the time, this is a I need to see through. I spoke to a friend of mine who is a psychologist, he says that your husband is displaying classic sociopathic behavior, he may not a murderer, but he is void of actual feeling, and everything and everyone is simply being kept neatly in their rightful place in his life because this is where they are in his mind. He will never divorce you, but you will never feel loved by him, you are there simply to play your role, as your daughter is. But I am afraid for your daughter, because when she develops into a young woman with wants and needs contrary to daddy's ideas for her, her self esteem will be crushed by him, because she will too, be kept neatly in place and eventually grow in to a woman who will not make a decision without, specifically, his direction. If this is the case for her, what will happen to her when something happens to him. She will never individuate from him, he will be the extension of her that gives direction to her life. May I ask, what happens when you have an idea concernign some decision for your daughter that he opposes? Does your idea stand a chance, or does he go on proving his postition by making you of no effect in the direction of her life, except when it corresponds with his ideas? I am sorry that you are sad, and that you feel the natural loving and maternal need to save him, or help him heal, but you need to realise that his way of thinking and analysing real llife aituations is not going to change, or even get better without some serious therapy, multiplied years of therapy, and he must be submissive at that, now honestly, do you really think this is possible? He feels safe only when things can be controlled, which is why he is great at work, there is no emotion to complicate the work environment, there is simply a formula to follow, the rules are straight laced, he walks the beaten path everyday, and can follow the same rules over and over and over again to make things work for him there without question. But with you, when he follows the same rules over and over and over again, there are questions, complications and unhappiness, which he cannot understand anyway 'I can't connect to his personality, he says one thing today and something else tomorrow, doesn't even remember or says 'well that was yesterday'. Sometimes I wonder who the hell he really is?' You are not loved, you are simply filling a role normal to an adult male in his adult male life. So is your daughter, 'Like he never memorizes things about me, after 10 years he still gets me wrong presents and red instead of white wine. He is not on my side if somebody hurts my feelings' It is obvious that your role as 'wife' in his life had been fashioned in his mind long before you even met him. You are in a position that fits no one but him, in his mind the wife he has isn;t anyone but someone he made up, I guess that you were the closest fit, or a woman who was easy to mold, or make fit into what he envisions. Was he abused as a child, why was his emotional development so stunted, that he plays life? You do realise that he isn't living it right? And I am sorry, but you cannot save him in time to save your daughter. Get out for your daughter's sake, even if you are convinced that you love him and want to see him better, then look on him and support his progress as a friend. Please get your daughter out of there.

oh come on, are there really men out there who care? Just kidding. My husband could care less if we even have a counter top. We just got our granite today. we have been using the raw plywood that thankfully our cabinet maker put on for us. I don't know why he makes them like that, but he does. I ended up going with the cold springs granite, which is very much like delicatus on my perimeter cabs and I did the absolute black on my island. I love the contrast! it is beautiful. my kitchen is not finished yet, and please excuse the granite dust from today. we have to adjust the feet on the stove to raiseit up to the height of the granite, and I am not finished painting, but you can see how they look together. maybe you could compromise with two granites?