The best place for indoor plants is probably a nursery that has them. Yeah Lowes and HD have them if you get them when they first arrive. Otherwise check for bugs and soggy plants. Never seen them at Costco but I don't see why they wouldn't be ok. You can always rescue them and give some TLC and they'll be ok. Once next summer rolls around you'll find yourself outside and all the new plants you can grow. Come over and hang out at the houseplants forum also. Great bunch of peeps there and lots in CA. All my mom's family is from Lansing area...then she got converted when married my dad! I'll probably get in trouble for posting these: You know youre a Wolverine when... 1. You beat Ohio State. 2. Youre the best in the Conference. 3. You think Heaven must be a lot like Ann Arbor, Michigan. 4. You think the colors of the rainbow are Maize, Blue, Maize, Blue. 5. All your kids are named "Blue". 6. Michigan games come before...well...anything. 7. 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Naturegirl: Excellent planI donÂt think you could do better. Of course you will see the Mariposa grove of sequoias. They are a bit out of the way from the other park attractions, but I would say they are a "MUST." A couple of things to look for: By all means stop to see the "Grizzly Giant" tree. This is one truly spectacular tree and in its way as amazing a giant sequoia as you can see anywhere. The diameter is truly massive, but overall it is technically not one of the largest because it is not so tall as othersÂjust a bit over 200 feet--, but no matter. The crown of this tree is truly grizzled and gnarled, suggesting that has been growing there forever. Depending on how much time you have, a couple of suggestions: Try to see one of the fallen trees. There is one called "The Fallen Monarch," but I canÂt remember how far one has to walk to see it. And since I was last there, the Wawona Tunnel tree has fallen. You might want to make a point of seeing that--it should be right next to the road. One of the finest trees is the Galen Clark treeÂgiven that name because that is supposedly the first tree he saw when he discovered the grove. It is not unusually large, but perfect in its formÂat least the last time I was there. Also, I understand there is a kind of tram ride that has been built. Maybe you could get around more easily that way to see the grove. But anywhere you stand in this grove you will see wonderful trees. And if you see this grove, and Big Basin, you will really have more than just a "taste" of the most amazing trees in the world. I would recommend that you get up early, very earlyÂand get to Yosemite early enough to see the Mariposa grove the first day. Then you would not have to break up your stay in the valley area the next day. Two recommendations: first, for a hike in the valley, the vernal falls trail is nice. I canÂt remember exactly how far it is to get to the top of the falls, but it may not be too far. Some of the other falls in November may not have much water. Bridal Veil may be dry, and Yosemite falls itself will be at a low ebb. But Vernal Falls should still be very nice. Second, Glacier Point should be a must. It is a bit of a drive, but not much walking required once you get there. One bummer for you is the days are so short in Nov. Well, have fun!!

Thanks, I'm glad to have photos as memories of a fun afternoon. Yes, Dax, I collected 4 large cones in a parking lot and managed to get them in my airline luggage. I also have unknown cones from my daughter's yard. You'll get a chance at ID's soon. I loved the cones of sugar pine spotted later in my vacation the most. They were in a National Park so I left them alone. Hard to do, but I thought I'd see more somewhere else that I could grab guilt free. Never saw any more :( I do have pics of them, tho...watch for giant sequoia and coast redwood pictures in the next few days with a few sugar pines thrown in for extra fun.

Wow....what an amazing list of people.... too many of them no longer with us or active here. It is nice to remember some of their names and their struggles that we shared. Thanks for the memories.