As regards Hunza diet bread, I'm certain that the key is the "Glacier Milk" used in the recipe. I recently stumbled across this information doing research on coral calcium. It seems that the water consumed on the island of Okinawa, Japan, like the "Glacier Milk" drunk by the Hunza, gets it's milky appearance from coral deposits. (Okinawa is an island formed out of a huge coral reef built up over millions of years) The chemical analysis of this milky liquid reveals that it consists not only of calcium, but of 72 other minerals in similar proportions to the minerals found in a healthy human body. Many claims as to the benefits derived from consuming this "Glacier Milk" are made by the Okinawans and the Hunza. It seems to make them happy, thin, free of disease, and long-lived. I found the equivalent to this "milk" in this finely ground coral powder from a company in Nevada (they buy it from Okinawa). I mix it with water (it is milky looking) and drink it twice a day. This is my fourth day. I feel great! My appetite has shrunk and myenergy level is steadily rising. I sleep like a log and can concentrate much better. I can imagine that the bread would be quite effective in many ways and intend to try some. The coral calcium came from Health Nutrients Inc. I highly reccommend it. I have the ordering info on a reciept which I can't find right now, but I'll find it and post it soon. Auracee

The reason you are not finding much is that WW really goes after people who post their info especially if they make money off it. I knew a lady who made points bracelets and sold them on E-Bay and they made her stop. If you know someone who goes to the meetings they can buy the info for you. If you check the diet forum MaryAnne posted a points calculator. Usually a point is about 50 calories but that can change as in the case of high fiber items which makes the points lower. Good luck! Kathy_PA

Ya, blender: get some protein powder from a health food store or excercise food store READ the label. You can make delicious SMOOTHIES with 'product' recommended serving of protein powder, any fruit of choice, milk and BLEND, yogurt too. You can even use peanut butter to throw in. Tell you doctor you want a dietitician - immediately. They can help with balanced meals. Can even try talking to a pharmacist for recommended supplements to put in these things. SMOOTHIES are great - yogurt and fruit and water Mashed potatoes and chili whipped into a drink with beef broth to thin out... Try those lovely canned stews and blend them, chunky soups and add MASHED potatoe to them for the starch content. Let me know if any of this helps. Dessert can be ANY PUDDING MIX, thinned out a little with milk... Green vegetables? Try another dinner shake with a creamy cheese sauce thinned with a little milk (recommend carnations canned 2 percent). Think about when you were a kid...I loved hamburger, mashed potatoe, peas and ketchup. I would smash it all together on my plate before eating it. If he is turned off by the LOOK, get some of those plastic cups with the straws that are solid colour so you can only taste and not see. The mind is funny sometimes. I hope this helps. Strongly suggest a dietician, need protein with his meals. Oh yeah, banana and peanut butter shakes are good to... chocolate and raspberries/strawberries (fresh/frozen) Let me know how it goes, Peggy

My BF was diagnosed with stage 4 esophageal cancer 3 1/2 yrs ago and after chemo, radiation, loss of part of his tongue, jaw replacement and throat replacement with muscle from his arm was told he would have to live with a PEG tube for the rest of his life. He refused and learned to down Ensure, aspirating a little each time but swallowing tests show it is not detrimental as he has learned to drink over a sink and he coughs out the last little bit. He has not been able to gain weight beyond 140 lbs (he looks like a stick man) even downing 16 bottles of Ensure a day and eventually adding whey protein powder until I met him. He likes to race in Enduro motorcycle competitions so is high energy. I am an RN and can't stand to see people using Ensure as a meal replacement, it is only meant to be a supplement and other than the vitamins and protein only contains oil and sugar with milk solids. I figured if he could down anything I could get him back to consuming vitamins, fat, etc. through natural foods and put some weight on him. The sugar in the Ensure has also taken a toll on what was beautiful white teeth. He had purchased a Vitamix 5200 (pricey but worth it) to mix another powdered sweet drink he found (can't remember the name) to put weight on. The vitamix will actually dessimate anything you place in it and is so fast it will heat the food so hot that you can't drink it. I have learned to blend the weirdest foods together to get the high calories and the only problem I've had is with the broths/juices/milk you have to add to get it to the very liquid consistency will sometimes dilute the flavors. I literally blend anything I eat for him and he is eating better than ever. I now taste everything (sometimes it sounds like it would be gross) and have been astounded at how flavorful meals can be. He has gained 10 lbs over the last 2 months since I add cheese, butter, use whole milk, and for shakes blend high fat nuts like Macadamia and coconut (he loves) and add to them. I have noticed that chicken and dumplings is his favorite because the base of the soup is all I need to use to thin it so it is full flavor. Also for some reason the italian dishes like spaghetti, lasagna, etc. even when thinned severely with beef broth keep the original taste. White sauces are best thinned with chicken broth and milk (both) and sweet and sour chicken is best thinned with apple juice. He is Jewish so when we made potato latke's I put the apple sauce and sour cream in and thinned with apple juice and milk and it tasted almost just like mine in a liquid version. One potato latke thinned equalled 64 ounces so thank goodness he can drink alot! Next time I may add a few potato flakes for extra calories. He has started blending sushi and thins with seafood broth found only at Central Market here. I've done steak with potato including sour cream, butter, bacon bits and thinned one time with milk and another with beef broth and added beef gravy...he loved it! Most of our "soups" come out restaurant quality:-)My next jump is to make steak with Au Jus and Demi Glace to try to get the flavor to come out better. I encourage you all not to be afraid to try different things together and remember that on a liquid diet you need to increase your calories significantly. His Oncologist said he can't believe I've been able to put weight on him but he's defied all of them from the start:-)