"Of course, the thing is, it depends on how you define "safe." That gave me a grin, Zabby. Never even thought of various levels of safe! I understand that canned pumpkin butter turning 'bad' is rare, and sickness or death caused by spoiled product is also a rarity. However... If I follow directions correctly, I do want to know that whatever I'm preparing is not going to make me or my family sick. Guaranteed. I think everyone expects the same. That is at least one reason some of us frequent this site, and probably the same for their site. There is no warning connected to instructions that says anything about a minute possibility of a small percentage of people falling ill after preparing and eating a canned Pumpkin Butter recipe, even when done correctly. Kraft is evidentially quite confident that it is safe. I hit 'reply' to the message I received above... This is the second message I sent: ................................................ Please note that I am NOT displeased with your recipe. It looks to have wonderful flavor and I'd love to be able to make it with confidence. However as I stated, I do have some serious concerns. Not one of the national canning institutes I have found recommend home canning pureed/mashed pumpkin or squash except you, and I can not figure out why. Can you guarantee me and the general public, that it is absolutely safe to make precisely as written on your site? Thank you so much for your time Crystal .............................. The reply back: Thank you for taking the time to visit us at http://www.kraftfoods.com/ and for letting me know about your experience. I know how disappointing it can be when a recipe doesn't turn out properly, and I'm sorry to hear that happened. I can assure you the recipe you received is correct as written. Our Kraft Kitchens Team thoroughly tests all of our recipes before they're published to ensure their accuracy. They may even take the extra step of having other members of the company review the recipes before they issue the final seal of approval. I hope this doesn't discourage you from trying one of the other recipes on our website, as I'm sure you'll find some great new ones that'll soon become family favorites! It was great hearing from you, and I encourage you to browse our website to take advantage of the great online food content that's available 24 hours a day! Kim McMiller Associate Director, Consumer Relations .............................. There ya go. It is safe, yes? But I still can't bring myself to make it. I'm still not understanding the whole picture. I'm not sure she was addressing MY question ...looking me in the eye, so to speak. It is safe in a 10 minute BWB but, NCHFP doesn't have a safe recipe to recommend to use with a pressure canner? Maybe it's not odd that one side won't gamble with my health but the other doesn't even blink. On the other hand, maybe they know more about the preservative powers of sugar and the correct amount to use than other canners do? I don't know.. they won't tell me. I've got to stop rambling on about this. It is so NOT like me ..so I give up. Frozen or canned cubed pumpkin it will be. Crystal

This one's good, and the cream cheese ribbon is an unexpected treat. * Exported from MasterCook * Pumpkin Ribbon Bread Recipe By : Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1 cup pumpkin 1/2 cup vegetable oil 2 eggs 1 1/2 cup sugar 1/2 tsp salt (optional) 1/2 tsp cloves 1/2 tsp cinnamon 1 2/3 cup flour 1 tsp baking soda 1 cup chopped nuts (optional) Cream cheese filling ingredients: 1 pkg cream cheese -- (8 oz.) softened 1/3 cup sugar 1 TB flour 1 egg 2 tsp grated orange peel Combine pumpkin, oil & eggs; beat well. Add sugar, salt, cloves, cinnamon, flour, baking soda, and nuts, mixing to blend. Pour 1/4 of the batter in 2 greased 7 1/2 x 3 1/2" bread pans. Beat cream cheese, sugar and flour together. Add egg and mix to blend. Stir in orange peel. Carefully spread cream cheese filling mixture over batter in the pans. Cover the cream cheese filling with the remaining batter. Bake at 325 degrees for 1 hour or until bread tests done. Cool 10 minutes in pans before turning out on a rack to cool. Store in the refrigerator. Joyce's 1997 2nd place Pumpkin Bread Posted to Friendly Freezer on 10-19-02 by Angela angela@seelyworld.com Source: "http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6734/recipe.html" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Here are three, Tried and True recipes. Ann Home Cookin Chapter: Recipes From Thibeault's Table Pumpkin Loaf ============ 3 Cups sugar 1 Cup vegetable oil 4 eggs 3-1/3 Cups flour 2 Teaspoons salt 2 Teaspoons cinnamon (or to taste) 1 Teaspoon nutmeg 2 Teaspoons baking soda 2 Cups pumpkin 2/3 Cup water 3 Teaspoons Vanilla 2 bags chocolate chips. . Mix sugar, oil and eggs together, add pumpkin and vanilla. Set aside. Combine flour, salt, cinnamon, nutmeg, and baking soda. Blend into sugar mixture alternately with water. Bake at 350 for 1 hour if using large loaf pans, or for 50 minutes if using smaller loaf pans. Spray pans with Butter flavoured Pam. NOTE: The original recipe called for nuts (pecans or walnuts) which I used. Then I tried it with both nuts and chocolate chips, before settling on just chocolate chips. I use two bags of good quality chocolate chips. Home Cookin Chapter: Recipes From Thibeault's Table Pumpkin Roll ============ 3 Eggs 1 Cup sugar 2/3 Cup pumpkin 1 Teaspoon lemon juice ¾ c flour 2 Teaspoons cinnamom 1 Teaspoon ginger 1 Teaspoon baking powder 1 Teaspoon baking soda ½ tsp nutmeg 1 Cup chopped nuts Filling 1 Cup powdered sugar 8 Ounces cream cheese 4 Tablespoons Butter 1 Teaspoon vanilla . Beat eggs 5 minutes at high speed, adding the sugar, until foamy. Fold in pumpkin and lemon juice. Sift together flour, cinnamon, ginger, baking powder, baking soda, nutmeg. Fold into egg mixture. Spread onto well greased and floured 15 X 10 X 1 inch jellyroll pan. Top with nuts. Bake at 375 degree for 15 minutes. While hot , turn cake onto a pastry cloth sprinkled with powdered sugar. Roll in pastry cloth and let cool. Beat together filling ingredients. Unroll cake, remove cloth and spread filling on cake. Roll filling inside cake. Let stand until cold. Slices better when frozen, freeze, then remove for several minutes before cutting. Home Cookin Chapter: Recipes From Thibeault's Table ================== Pumpkins! They are everywhere now! I once heard that the white ones make the best pumpkin pie, but have never heard it confirmed. Can anyone comment on this and the merits of one variety of pumpkin over another for assorted uses? While I like the idea of cooking and pureeing my own pumpkin for pies, I wonder how much difference it really makes. Any comments? Posted by Eileen, (Browntoestoo) My favorite pumpkin pie recipe is one I found in Bon Appetit: Favourite Pie crust recipe or 1 Buttermilk Pie Crust Dough disk 1 16-ounce can solid pack pumpkin 1 cup whipping cream 3/4 cup pure maple syrup 3 large eggs 1 tablespoon all purpose flour 1/2 teaspoon natural maple flavor 1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon 1/4 teaspoon ground ginger 1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg Pinch of salt For Maple Whipped Cream: 1 cup chilled whipping cream 3 tablespoons pure maple syrup . Position rack in lowest third of oven and preheat to 400°F. Roll pie crust disk out on lightly floured surface to 13-inch-diameter round (about 1/8 inch thick). Roll up dough on rolling pin and transfer to 9-inch-diameter glass pie plate. Gently press into place. Trim edges of crust, leaving 1/2-inch overhang. Fold excess under. Crimp edges. Freeze until crust is firm, about 15 minutes. Line pie crust with foil, leaving 3-inch overhang. Fill foil with beans or pie weights. Fold extra foil gently over crust edges. Bake until crust is set, about 15 minutes. Remove foil and beans. Cool pie crust slightly. Reduce oven temperature to 350°F. Whisk all remaining ingredients (except Maple Whipped Cream) to blend in bowl. Pour filling into crust. Bake until filling is set, covering crust edges with foil if browning too quickly, about 55 minutes. Cool completely. (Can be prepared 1 day ahead. Chill.) Cut pie into wedges and serve with Maple Whipped Cream. To make Maple Whipped Cream: Whip cream with syrup in large bowl until soft peaks form. Makes about 2 cups. Serves 8.

Seems like it'd be good drizzled on pumpkin cheesecake. Sort of a cross between the two! But what about pretzels?