im sorry, i dont have the details anymore, they are lost in history that is my mind. but the most interesting story that i remember is this white moth orchid of maybe australian decent. this had a spur of 12+ inches yet no insect was found to have that long of a tounge. Darwin said, keep looking!! years after his death, sure enough. a (night?) moth with a 14" inch tounge was found. reinforces the evolutionary theory of 1 - 1 evolution quite well. Olbrich botanical gardens in Madison WI had that orchid and that was the second time i heard the story, first time being in botany school. certainly someone here can give the name and maybe even a link? froggy

I'm betting Sue would know! (chemocurl) as our Resident busybody :) Her words, not mine! lol LMAO!!! I just saw your reply there Wendy at the SEED X about the hazelnutbunny thread over here and stopped by here to see if I could maybe find it and provide the link over there in that thread at the Seed Exchange Conversations....that's what resident busy bodies do ya know! Anywho...the correct thing to do would be to make a suggestion at The Suggestion Forum. You could then provide a link in this thread to the Suggestion thread in the hope that others would go and additionally request an (Off Topic) Conversation side here. Off topic might be better if folks just wanted to post things about stuff not relating directly to RR. It does not appear that the Suggestions are read by GW management, but I do think that in time they will act on some of the many 'good' suggestions that have been made that others have shown a lot of interest in. GW has not made any actual forum additions to my knowledge in a very long time, but I 'think' when they do, they will likely make several of them at the same time, as they did the last time...late 2006. One can hope anyway. I have given my vote of support to several of the suggestions. Heya, Purpleacres - the head honchos might not see this - but if you go to the GW home page, there is a link to "Contact us", which might get your communication to them more directly. Actually that Contact US link is found at the bottom of every page here at GW. It is in the green banner thingy. Sue...rbb She's everywhere! She's everywhere!...just like chickenman! Remember him?

Ketzel - I write while LOOKING at my garden. Being IN one would be better, but it was 91° at dawn (37 °C for you metric folk) and it's headed for 112°, with humidity. tandyslashcrazy - "so what do people in this forum do? post essays and stuff and then discuss them?" Ask me to write an essay and I'll ask what the pay is. :) It's more about writing as a way of earning money - contracts, editors, how to get article ideas - than writing for the sake of writing. It's not a matter of skill, it's a way of thinking ... I have no problem being crassly commercial and selling my brain children, innermost thoughts and random musings to any editor who writes checks that don't bounce.

I only used the term 'Lurker' because that is what Texasporch used about herself. I think of the term lurker the same way as reader, internet speaking. There isn't any difference in my mind. Stalker is different. I've been stalked on the internet and have received police involved death threats. That is a whole other situation that involves the ($$) work I do. Here, we can be more flexible on terms used, right? But the readers/lurkers just think they have nothing to contribute. In reality, they can change up everything (for the better). Just sayin'. UDKM is the perfect example. There must be more of you out there, so chime in! We need new blood.