nat4b, I suspect it is too late to have any luck with the lily auction, since I waited this long and they are not even in my archives anymore. I expected them to follow through in the spring just like they said they would. Foolish me. I have the emails the lily auction sent me regarding the wins, and some nice little conversation. That means I am out $31.99 to one and $35.25 to the other plus $17 in shipping. I also have the useless labels I had paid have to made to mark the plants, and they cost almost $4 each. I will be happy to tell you privately who the "sellers" were. I understand anyone can make a mistake, but the only two daylilies I ever lost came from one of these sellers in other separate auctions. The plants did seem happy when they arrived, but they are dead. Ah well, kay

So it's May 2015 and I am just joining this conversation with the same plans to build with plenty of cash to do it without compromising our retirement and other investments. I have already gained some new insights by reading everyone's comments here so thank you! We also have our current house almost paid off which will be used to recoup some of our costs when it sells. And like several of you, we don't want to sell and move two times so we'll wait until new construction is near completion. But something just keeps nagging me about having some kind of safeguard in case something happens along the way. We know and trust our builder, but hey, anything can happen expectantly along the way. So I Googled Beth's original headline and came across another blog that revealed something very reassuring to me. Everyone knows about construction-to-permanent loans, but how about just taking out the initial construction loan and then paying it off in full at the end with no permanent loan? The lender assumes responsibility for getting an accurate appraisal, inspections, approvals for builder draws and final title. A 12-month construction loan would involve miniscule interest costs for the peace of mind in return. And what say you? An inquiring mind wants to know!

Closing costs come along with a mortgage or more accurately I suppose a loan? There are basically two types of closing costs. Those related to the purchase (aka transaction) and those related to borrowing any money to facilitate the transaction. Those related to the transaction are charged whether you are taking out a loan or not. Examples include title insurance, property taxes, transfer taxes, attorneys' fees, agents'commissions, certain other types of insurance. Some of these charges will be a fixed fee, others based on a percentage of the sales price. Some of these fees are charged by the title company and some by the state/local authority. The second set of closing costs are those related to taking out a loan. The appraisal fee (which is usually a fixed charge - say $350)and the origination fees (aka points - which is based on the amount of the loan. Each point is 1% of the loan amount). Seems like a lot of the closing costs come from the title company - and you have to do that anyway? I.e. why are loan closing costs a big deal? Most people finance their home purchases by borrowing the money. It costs money to borrow money. The largest cost of borrowing money is, of course, interest determined by the interest rate. The other big cost of borrowing is the origination fee, aka points. It's a big deal because it is a one-time charge based on the amount borrowed. So, it's variable. A point is 1% of the loan amount. If I'm buying a $500,000 house, borrowing 100%, and paying 1 point, it's going to cost me $5000 (just drop the last two zeroes on the loan amount.)If I put down 50% and finance $250,000, the point will cost me $2500. Some borrowers find it advantageous to "buy down" their interest rate. They might pay 2 points or more to purchase a lower interest rate over the life of the loan. Other borrowers might pay zero points and buy a slightly higher interest rate. Lenders will often tie interest rates and points together as a marketing tool to stand out against their competition. So, depending on the amount financed and the number of points charged, this particular cost of borrowing money can make or break the loan for a potential buyer. And do mortgage related closing costs go up with the amount of the loan? How why? Some do, some don't - see above. Why? 'Cuz. (LOL) Then depending on the last, only buying a house full price/cash is an advantage? A hefty downpayment and smaller loan gets you (no)where? Not necessarily. Sadly, Mary, this is where the math becomes really important. But a good mortgage calculator with a full amortization schedule can be a big help. It will calculate not only the monthly payment but the total interest cost of the loan (prepare for heart failure) and enable you to model different interest rate, loan amount, and payment scenarios. Stop thinking of it as math and start thinking of it as money...playing with money. So when people talk closing costs - are we talking two types? The type you pay no matter what - say you bought full purchase price - or even inherited a house. And the ones that come along with a loan? Which are loan ones and which are not? Yup...see above. Mary, the best way to understand the total transaction costs of a real estate purchase is to take out your settlement statement from you recent home sale. This is called the HUD-1. Then go to HUD's website and follow the line-by-line explanation of what each settlement line means. You'll see right away that the form is divided into loan costs and other costs. Doing this is akin to doing your taxes by hand. Despite the miracle of tax software, you will never understand our tax system better (and how it applies to you) than after you've done your taxes with paper, pencil, and a good tax manual. Something, each taxpayer should do at least ONCE in their lifetime. Same goes for the HUD-1. It's work but it's good work. Hope that helps. The concepts, guidelines, and rules-of-thumb are important but no piece of generic advice will ever replace working the numbers specific to YOUR situation, your financial needs, your psychology, and your future situation. Mary, I know how much you want to buy a home versus renting. You love "home" - it's a passion, a hobby, and a lifestyle for you. You also want a secure financial future and you have doubts about how these two fit together right now. I think it's great that you keep asking questions and seeking answers. I read that you had engaged a financial planner. As you review your decisions, you might want to start a new hobby - getting past math anxiety by learning more about consumer finances and financial planning. The math is such a small part of it. It's much more a process of thinking and mindset. You might want to see if your local county or community college offers financial education classes. It's a great way to meet people who have similar interests and it can become downright addictive. Fifteen years ago, I didn't know there was such a thing as a financial calculator...now, I carry one with me all the time. Playing with mortgage scenarios, calculating investment earnings, etc. is a great way to pass time while waiting in lines...sort of like having your own financial game-boy. Good luck!

I think it's funny that I'm one of the few who actually use her name, and it's my real name - not my middle name, not a nickname, but my name. I guess that isn't prudent, but I've been on a couple of boards where I've done the same, forged great friendships, etc. kk: Please don't even hint that Southern's education is fictional. That's insulting. She is genuine - I have no doubts - I've enjoyed her take on some medical issues dealing w/ my family. I guess you don't believe me w/ my profession, either, as it could be 'made up.' Really, I'm sure neither of us would have the time on our hands to be able to look up answers to questions so that we could pretend to be something we're not. Sheesh! In fact, I was once on a board for moms wishing to add to their families and one of the other women called me at my office! I must have given my last name at some point, my city has never been a secret, and she felt badly about something and gave me a call. I've also met another cyberfriend who was visiting my area, and exchange Christmas cards w/ my email group of moms parenting only boys or only girls. I've had phone calls - actually once, late at night, of a cyberfriend needing dental advice. It was great to be able to help someone in rural Nebraska who would otherwise have nowhere to turn at that hour. I don't hide behind anything but the truth. I'm happy to help anyone in their hour of need, really - a real life person or a cyberfriend. I wonder if we were biomoms - would you accept everything we said as gospel? Dana