Can be recycled with a compostable toilet. Japan, and other countries use composted human manure to fertilize their vegetables. Nothing is wasted.

Here ya go Ed.
Composting Toilets.
Not only use no water,
but recycles all the waste products into rich compost.

Here is a link that might be useful: Composting Toilets

Reroll the toilet paper in the fall when, during homecoming week, the teens TP the yards in your neighborhood.

TREKaren,

I made a mistake - at first I thought that you were going to save it up during late summer and early fall and sell it to them before they went out to conduct their shenanigans.

It always pays to take a second look, give a second thought!

When you go out to collect it, do disagreements develop among adjacent neighbours regarding who's to pick up how much?

Do you just leave it in the jumble as you picked it up, in the plastic bag between commode and bath tub - or pull it out, flatten it and store it neatly?

I'd think it best to disentangle it, then flatten it at least, as I'd think it much more difficult to manage it after it got used to being all twisted up for an extended period.

Do you re-roll it on empty rolls?

What do you do when you're ready to use it and - divisions show up in the wrong place?

It looks like you have a good idea going there, TREKaren. Keep working on it.

ole joyful

In Korea, almost 50 years ago, nearly everyone lived in single-family homes, usually each in a walled compound. Every home, including city ones, had a latrine in a small shed out back, a hole in the ground, over which one squatted to do one's business. Without contacting the facility: orientals think our habit of having multiple persons' rear ends (serially) touching the facility quite distasteful - as well as unhygienic in the extreme.

Only a very few newspapers came into the average village, were passed from hand to hand for reading (reused), and then again for final use after the news had staled (recycled). No problem with surplus used newspapers.

Entrepreneurs trundled ox-carts into town and charged householders a fee to empty their latrines, dipping the product with dried half-gourds on a stick, then pouring it into wooden tanks (which were much more durable than steel), which all the foreign community called "honey buckets".

They hauled the loads out to the nearby farms, sold the product to the farmers to enrich their fields and scattered it immediately on the land - without composting.

We were cautioned not to eat raw vegetables without thorough cleansing, with green ones to be used uncooked washed in water to which we'd added a chemical, as roundworm infestation was almost universal.

Something like a third of the population were farmers in those days - with each farmer's holding being something like 3 acres. Many local farmers had been displaced to build military barracks for both Korean and a number of international brigades, airfields, etc. (including Prisoner of War camps which held many thousands of detainees).

Refugees mostly had to scrounge a location wherever they could find it - a shack built of scraps over an open drain, high on mountainsides on unclaimed land, etc.

So refugees who'd been farmers found it impossible to obtain land to work. In wartime, many businesses, industry and commerce were closed down, so it was very difficult also for non-farmers to find employment.

Huge changes have taken place in Korea since those days. By the way - it's important for us to help the Afghans get back on their feet: they've known nothing but destructive war for a couple of generations - and (unlike the Iraqis) have few resources to pay for the rebuilding.

By the way, we Canadians have a major lesson to learn from the Koreans - how to live next door to big neighbour(s) for centuries, without getting eaten.

I hope that you're all enjoying a summer which adds some new polished facets to the diamond of your being.

joyful guy

My uncle-who has since passed away, was a world War II veteran and was stationed in the Fiji Islands in the early part of the war. He told of the Natives who used to use leaves or their hands to take care of the "Wiping" Business.The American soldiers tried to make them more civilized and introduced them to toilet Paper. Two Months later he found out they were using the toilet paper in a unique way. They would take one sheet of TP and fold it in 4. Then they would cut out the inside corner of the folded TP
to form a hole. Then they would stick their index finger thru the hole...use their index finger to take care of the "wiping" action and then proceed to slide the TP off the finger to clean it. (A true Story)
Another Fijiian story....The Native women used to run around the Island with Bare Breasts. The American Soldiers again in their attempt to bring some civility to the Island offered the women sweaters to cover up. The next time he saw the women, they had cut holes in their sweaters to let their Breasts hang out. (again, a true story)
These stories were not meant to embarrass anybody...only to enlighten!

Ed, JoyfulGuy, let's just leave it at that there is such copious use of TP in the US and Canada, and we can afford to use it ... let's not recycle it.

If it's the magazines you're talking about, go ahead and ask if you can have them. If it is the TP you're talking about, try and snag some of the ad pages from the back of the magazines to wipe your hiney with,,, but be prepared to reimburse your former hosts for the plumbing bills!!!

You're too long out in the country by yourself!!!!

:)

Gina,

Took son the clown who twists long balloons into animal shapes for kids up to a festival at Sarnia, on the St. Clair River across from Port Huron, MI where the Tall (sailing) Ships were on the weekend.

Have you seen them - with their miles of ropes?

The drinking fountain in the park at the waterfront had its drain blocked, so water had built up and was overflowing the bowl on to the ground. Sometimes I and others would come along to sweep the surplus water off with a hand to the concrete pad.

Next day I took my sink plunger along, gave it a shot or two. The drain cleared and the surplus water went the way that it was supposed to for the rest of the weekend.

Think that'd work at my friend's house - were I to use the mags as substitute for TP (as we used to, also catalogues, in the outhouses of old - and the glossy pages were left till last, in the hope that another would appear before the necessity of using them)?

By the way, what's this about the ads " ... at the back ... " - they's all the way through, in the mags that I get.

By the way - with regard to the T.P. - we need the trees standing: the lungs of the world. That are suffering as well from the pollution and some of them, thus weakened, as well as by drought, are less able to withstand the depradations of insects and diseases and are dying before their time.

Fewer trees to add to the precious oxygen supply.

Though it was many years ago, I grew up on a farm with various animals in quantity - so "sh-t" [editor wouldn't let me use a sequence of letters that might be construed as profanity] is just another four-letter word to me. Cleaning lots of it out of the barn, then later loading it by fork to spread on the fields just part of the daily routine.

Good wishes for good breathing as well as wiping.

ole joyful

P.S. (I'm still using the stuff that I grabbed at the family reunion/picnic June 21, well over two months ago - and I think that my stash may be about half used).

By the way - I haven't found a way to use it twice (in its regular capacity).

OJ

Is it true there are 17 different colours of tp?

As for newspapers...I would worry about the ink, I'd rather use my phonebill, gas bill, credit card statements.....

McP

This was the original message regarding the research about the use of toilet paper.

And I got the subject wrong - it should have been, "How to reUSE toilet paper", (minus the capitals that I used here)actually, for I didn't alter, reformulate or remanufacture it prior to using it the second time.

I hope that you're up for a bit of fun.

There have been major changes in the home where I was visiting while initiating the research.

The father, who was my friend, died, and I conducted his funeral.

The youngest son began operating a nursery and tree farm on their 10 acre lot.

But the family didn't have assets enough to continue, so have renovated the house and offered it for sale.

They sold it a couple of weeks ago.

My family used to have a farm, where I grew up, a couple of miles from that family and half a dozen miles from here.

Our family owned it for 30 years, and the people who bought it from Dad just sold it - they've owned it for 60 years.

There's been a major upgrading in the level of capital gain exemption allowed to farmers when they sell their farm in the recent Federal budget.

If it starts from the first of this year, they'll qualify. If from the date of the budget, they won't.

Drat - I'm badly off-topic ... again.

I hope that you all have a lovely spring weekend.

ole joyful

All right, I DO reuse toilet paper... just not in the way you think. In the morning, I take about two squares and wipe off the bathroom sink (it's an old beat-up one and gets dusty quickly) and then I use that same piece of toilet paper to pull the hair out of the bathtub's drain.

I also reuse those cleansing face cloths--I wash my face and then I use them to wipe out the sink. What a miser! Sheesh.

Congratulations, Xantippe.

Keep up the good work!

ole joyful

"All right, I DO reuse toilet paper... just not in the way you think. In the morning, I take about two squares and wipe off the bathroom sink (it's an old beat-up one and gets dusty quickly) and then I use that same piece of toilet paper to pull the hair out of the bathtub's drain."

That isn't "REUSING" though, it's just USING for a purpose other than cleaning one's privates. I too will use a clean square for removing hair from the tub, or for wiping off the faucet.

I shudder to think of anyone who'd REUSE toilet paper for the same said purposes LOL

Darn!

I did it again!

This story didn't tell of the way that, instead of "recycling" as this thread speaks, I found a way to "reUSE" toilet paper.

That was told in the "First research report ....", that came out later, that shows up occasionally in this forum.

Actually, the use in the outhouses of old, using newspaper (first use was reading the news) or catalogues (shiny pages left till last) was a reuse of the same product in unaltered form ... well, I guess it was altered a bit, for often it was cut into convenient-sized squares. But not differing sizes to accomodate different sizes of application.

Just thought this thread needed a bit of clarification.

Hope you'll all have weekend that's memorable ... for attractive reasons.

We never know what tomorrow will bring.

So we need to be thankful for health and innumerable other instances of our good fortune that we enjoy, living in the north 7/8 of North Amwerica.

Some people with disability, when told by the "ordinary" that they are not disabled, have been known to reply, "Not yet!".

Ask some/most seniors whether they function with the facility that they knew 50 years ago.

A member of the ROMEO club at the church, Retired Old Men Eating Out that meets weekly for coffee and conversation, told me this morning that a few days ago he was struck by an illness called "Bell's Palsy" that immobilies one side of one's face, so he must be careful not to dribble liquid out of a corner of his mouth, and can't wink.

He thought at first that he was having a stroke, but it turns out to be this. His doctor and the specialist are hoping that it will go away in a couple of months ...

... but frequently that situation is permanent.

One of my fellow-grads from seminary back in '53 got it quite a few years ago, and his has been permanent.

Wouldn't you like to be a clergyperson (or anyone) coping with one side of one's face not working?

ole joyful