oh I'm cool with it, compared to the worse things that have and can happen it is only stuff..that is basically what i told him..but when it happens to him nearly daily (hurting himself or other stuff) it gets hard for him to take. I just laugh it off and go on, most of the time..see he has broken his breastbone, 2 fingers and hurt himself in other ways..back, etc..just in the past 2 weeks..this is kinda normal as he is very accident prone, drs say cause of the head injury and meds..but this also was lack of sleep, he sometimes goes up to 4 days without sleep think he was on 2 when he hit the door

I would use what ever door product is strong in your area. If you use Wayne dalton, STAY AWAY FROM THE TORKMASTER SYSTEM. It is a spring inside of a pipe. I have never seen one that works well, and no one,(even Wayne dalton)seems to want to service them. Their doors without this system are very good,if medium to top quality. Amarr is very good, Clopay Sold by Home Depot is also good. Don't just buy PRICE. Try to buy a steel door with a "steel backing". Most of the doors that are priced right are "hollow" in the back and very "tinny". Clopay model 4050 or the Amarr Weatherguard are two that I like myself, (I sell and install garage doors). They have steel backcovers, and are quite solid. There are many others just as good, but just try to stay with a steel door with a steel backcover. Dan

Thanks for the reply. We currently have a 1/3 hp liftmasters with our wood rollup door. They've worked great over the years and are very easy for me to maintain(I've replaced the nylon gear in one of them). That's why I asked about the weight and whether I need to upgrade or not. I'd prefer not to - to save some money and because I'm somewhat familiar with the innards, lol. Thanks again for the reply!

First, since again people aren't looking at what's said. This probably should be on a separate thread but food for thought, how does a person with egg allergies react to homemade cupcakes and not bakery cupcakes? The label argument doesn't hold water since virtually every time someone brings external food to a meeting or something, the package is thrown away and most people with such allergies know that cupcakes made in bakeries have eggs in them too. When someone has a serious allergy, is it the world's responsibilty to look out for them or should they bring a treat for themselves that they can have if they want to be safe? Perhaps everyone else is required to stock medications for everyone else so they don't have to bring the meds for their own diseases? I cannot imagine my child having a severe allergy and even taking the chance of allowing them to eat what someone else brings whether from a store or home, school lunches or otherwise. I certainly wouldn't allow it if it was a life-threatening situation. But I guess that's a difference in people. And BTW, my sister has celiac. So don't give me that, LOL. Being recently diagnosed she's being very careful to stabilize before testing if there's certain sensitivities. But I imagine laxsupermom feels the world should outlaw wheat, oats, barley and malt because of this. Fortunately sis is responsible enough or at least considerate enough that she doesn't require everyone else to provide special things for her at a party, nor does she feel the bakeries should all shut down, farmers quit growing crops or the like. And I applaud her for that. Additionally my friends and relatives who are diabetic don't feel the world needs to ban sugar either. You called your kid names, not me and that's pretty tacky IMHO. I gave and give no such "definition" you suggest nor suggest anything derrogatory about your son. I wish the lad nothing but the best and in fact I wish him far better than what he has. I will give a definition though, and I'm not talking about anyone in particular, but I think that generally speaking a parent is pretty pompous to say that my kids and my neighbors' kids can't have a cupcake, piece of fruit, cookie or pork cutlet just because theirs can't. What I said and you misunderstood is that sensitive people can simply bring something so they can be safe and still participate. It works. We did that way back when I was in school. Enough on that, it's off topic. Back to the topic. I didn't necessarily "save" money, but I did spend a lot less at Target. I needed foil and thought of it while there so I bought a roll on sale and rather than searching and looking and driving for a better price I got one there. I needed a hair trimmer since I broke two of them now, and found one last one for $9.99. Good enough price for me. Then I went past the clearance shelf and there was a far better one on there, but wasn't marked. Decided to check it in case someone left it there and it scanned up at $8.94. That went into the cart. Toothpaste on clearance 3pk for $2.25, and was waiting for a giant towel to go on sale and it was on sale this week so that was $2 off and I wanted two so I got them. Needed Q-tips and was getting the store brand until I went past the clearance rack and the name brand was on clearance cheaper than the store brand. So when I factor in I got things that I probably would have gone elsewhere to get, I may have saved some gas too, though I usually try to combine trips. There was a couple other things I got there too but don't recall offhand. Oh and I did save over $9 since the cashier charged me for three towels instead of two. I decided to double check that the towels rang in on sale and caught it. Usually I try to watch as the items are being rung in but this store has the monitor in a different position so I couldn't see it. Would have been really annoyed if I would have noticed it at home. Would have been nice to have gotten some compensation for it. Irritated with the cashier's attitude and blaming it on the computer must've scanned it twice. Yeah, it's the computer's fault! So check your receipts and happy frugaling everyone.