Hey Susan, Not sure if you are still on here. I have been trying to find these seeds. I came across your post. I am in the panhandle also, Tallahassee. I grow many heirlooms and I am trying to add this one to the list and will let some go to seed to save the line. I have an Indian (Seminole) squash that I can trade if you are interested.

Carol, Are the vines still intact enough that you can yank them down and pull them down from the tree? That's how I get mine harvested once they're up in the trees. If not, a ladder and a good pruning pole can come in handy. Hazel, I like the Dixondale onion fertilizer a lot and don't believe anything in it would adversely affect the Seminoles. Were y'all really dry? If so, they might have needed more water. As for the squash bugs and squash vine borers, the squash bugs will get on the plants, but I scout religiously twice daily for squash bugs so usually find and remove them before they can spread diseases to the plants. My favorite method involveds removing them with a lint roller or a portable vacuum cleaner. Seminole pumpkins, like all C. moschatas, are tolerant of damage from squash vine borers but not 100% resistant to it. For legal reasons, the word tolerant most often is used officially instead of resistant as there is very little in the plant world that is 100% resistant to anything, but either way, the SVBs normally don't bother the vines because all C. moschatas have solid vines, making it hard for the SVB grubs to tunnel through them. I'm not saying it won't happen. It can happen. It just isn't common. If the SVBs were tunneling directly into the fruit, I could understand that as there is nothing about the fruit (particularly before the rind matures and hardens) that would repel them. That's why when you have C. pepo, C. maxima and C. moschata all growing side-by-side, the SVBs will hit the C. pepo and C. maxima plants first since it is easy to tunnel through their hollow vines. George, Some years are just like that. I had some trouble with Seminole one year. I planted it late, then rain didn't fall, then squash bugs hit it and it didn't do much of anything until autumn and then it finally produced, though it didn't produce heavily like it normally does. It was in the back garden near the fenceline and it also may have had some bermuda grass infiltration. I think it was a year with a lot of summer/autumn fires so I wasn't around much to worry about it. Maybe it was 2012. I know it wasn't 2011 because my Seminole plants hung on and survived the drought and produced very heavily very late in the fall. I also remember that the following year I stubbornly put Seminoles in the same exact spot (to prove to myself that it wasn't the fault of the soil) and they grew fine and produced heavily. I believe I planted them earlier than I had the year before and I did a better job of watering them because we were in our third year of drought by then and I knew I couldn't just sit around waiting for rain because it clearly wasn't going to to fall. I irrigated early and often to get them off to a good start. I'd glad y'all have been enjoying the Seminoles that Carol and Al brought you. It just wouldn't seem like fall and winter without some winter squash. Amy, I feel like I am running behind in the garden 99% of the time. Maybe I feel ahead on the very first day of the new year that I plant anything, but after that, I am forever running late and feeling like I'll never catch up and be on-time. I partly blame it on the weather. Either we stay warm and I start thinking that had I know winter or early spring would stay so warm, I would have planted 2 or 3 weeks earlier, or the cold delays planting and then I feel totally behind for sure. I try not to worry about it. If Tim ever comes home from work during planting season and doesn't have to listen to me complain about how far behind I am, he'll think he came home to the wrong house or something. I feel sorry for my winter squash plants every year. Despite my intentions to save a great planting space for them, I fail. I fill their saved space with other stuff and then they get squeezed into whatever open space I could find. It is their fault, not mine. They're the persnickety plants that cannot tolerate cold weather or cold soil and they should know that while we're waiting for it to get warm enough for them, I'm losing my mind and planting tomatoes or peppers or beans in "their" reserved space. Some of the best squash plants I've ever had did come up right in the compost pile. Dawn

Atlanta has: Six Flags over Georgia Whitewater - water park (with an amusement park for young kids next door) Aquarium - the aquarium is very nice Coke Museum Stone Mountain - water slides, cable cars, duckmobile, riverboat ride, shops, etc. Lots of shopping - Atlantic Station downtown has lots of restaurants and stores including Ikea, but not outlet stores like Pigeon Forge. I think there are some nice exhibits going on down there right now, too, but I don't know what they are. There's other shopping all around Atlanta, lots of outlet malls around the fringes of Atlanta if you know where they are. Atlanta Braves baseball Fernbank Museum of Natural History (kids like the dinosaur skeletons) Atlanta has an art museum and other art venues and a history museum, but you may not want to do those things with young children in tow. Olympic Park has a big fountain the kids like to play in. If you feel like driving to north metro Atlanta, the Mall of Georgia is nice. There are often concerts outdoors beside the mall, lots of shopping and restaurants. In Duluth there is a train museum that is probably nice if you have a young train enthusiast. It's been years since we went, but my son loved it when he was little and crazy about trains. Other attractions that I've heard are nice but aren't as kid friendly are touring the historic Fox Theater (or taking in a show there, and sometimes in the summer they have movies there that are very affordable) and touring the TBS studio or CNN studio. I don't know where you'd rent a cabin with a pool in the Atlanta area. Instead of Pigeon Forge you might try Gatlinburg. It's in the mountains and within driving distance of Dollywood. Gatlinburg might be a little closer to Atlanta than Pigeon Forge, it might cut an hour off your drive (I don't know). If you just want to rent a cabin and relax, you might try Calloway Gardens. It is nothing like Pigeon Forge, but there are cabins, bike trails and bike rentals, beautiful gardens, a lake with a beach, it's very close to Franklin D. Roosevelt State Park (as in you could easily bike to it). I think there's an animal safari type attraction over there, too. But it is nowhere near as built up as Pigeon Forge and there's no amusement park. There's not a lot of shopping and few good restaurants. Good luck with whatever you choose.

Josephene- If you settle on Wedowee, I drive past the area several times a year, so it would be easy to drop you off a plant or 2. Lake Weiss is a bit farther. oldmangroot- I have just made 3 cuttings. They still have their leaves, so I have to wait to see if they make it. Some times They get soft and die rather than dry up. Check back with me in a couple of weeks.