Kitchen remodel ideas please! Range/Built-ins? Wall angles?

13 years ago

Hello all. First time poster here...Just recently purchased a house through my city's First Time Home Buyer program, and the kitchen is #1 on the to-do list. I plan on getting new cabinets and countertops all around, but just extending the "L" shape on both sides. Where the eat in kitchen is, I plan to have either a breakfast bar (extra deep/wide countertop on L shape), or a raised 2-tier breakfast bar. However, I am having trouble in the back corner of the kitchen. My current house's kitchen is in the following pics:

http://img852.imageshack.us/i/mykitchen.jpg/

http://img25.imageshack.us/i/mywalloven.jpg/

http://img838.imageshack.us/i/mycooktop.jpg/

As you can see, there are some angular challenges. If I keep the built-ins, I'll be spending more on new appliances vs. getting a Range, and will need the new countertops fabricated to fit a new cooktop cutout. Likewise, you can see that the cooktop/counter extends a few inches past the current angular wall, which is strange. I thought about using a mod. that another homeowner did with the same layout here: BUT do not like the built-in idea($$) and don't like the angular countertop cutouts where they extended if leftward:

http://img545.imageshack.us/i/ideao.jpg/

http://img14.imageshack.us/i/idea2k.jpg/

I'm thinking I may be able to make the mod above^^ but avoiding the angular countertop cut and just extending the standard depth countertop leftward....while adding in a Range where the cooktop is. However, I think keeping the angular wall above (to the left of the upper cabinets) would clash with the a countertop that does not maintain/mimic those angles. I may also end up having the wall stick out a few extra inches, as there is a hallway cut out just to the left of the wall oven. Short of leveling out the whole wall-oven section to the hallway, does anyone have any ideas? Its very tough to explain without seeing it in person. Thanks!

However, another house on this street with the same layout is also for sale. They made the following modification below The thing I don't like is the goofy dimensions/cut out of their countertops.

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dianalo
13 years ago
Please imbed your pix in the posting. That is a lot of copying and pasting for others to do and then we can't scroll up and down among the photos. Whenever I see too many links to paste, I get lazy and move on. You will get more responses if the pix are immediately visible.
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spud802
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13 years ago
Hello all. First time poster here...Just recently purchased a house through my city's First Time Home Buyer program, and the kitchen is #1 on the to-do list. I plan on getting new cabinets and countertops all around, but just extending the "L" shape on both sides. Where the eat in kitchen is, I plan to have either a breakfast bar (extra deep/wide countertop on L shape), or a raised 2-tier breakfast bar. However, I am having trouble in the back corner of the kitchen. My current house's kitchen is in the following pics:
[url=http://img852.imageshack.us/i/mykitchen.jpg] 1[/url]
[url=http://img25.imageshack.us/i/mywalloven.jpg] 2[/url]
[url=http://img838.imageshack.us/i/mycooktop.jpg] 3[/url]

As you can see, there are some angular challenges. If I keep the built-ins, I'll be spending more on new appliances vs. getting a Range, and will need the new countertops fabricated to fit a new cooktop cutout. Likewise, you can see that the cooktop/counter extends a few inches past the current angular wall, which is strange. I thought about using a mod. that another homeowner did with the same layout here: BUT do not like the built-in idea($$) and don't like the angular countertop cutouts where they extended if leftward:

[url=http://img545.imageshack.us/i/ideao.jpg] idea[/url]
[url=http://img14.imageshack.us/i/idea2k.jpg] idea2[/url]

I'm thinking I may be able to make the mod above^^ but avoiding the angular countertop cut and just extending the standard depth countertop leftward....while adding in a Range where the cooktop is. However, I think keeping the angular wall above (to the left of the upper cabinets) would clash with the a countertop that does not maintain/mimic those angles. I may also end up having the wall stick out a few extra inches, as there is a hallway cut out just to the left of the wall oven. Short of leveling out the whole wall-oven section to the hallway, does anyone have any ideas? Its very tough to explain without seeing it in person. Thanks!

However, another house on this street with the same layout is also for sale. They made the following modification below The thing I don't like is the goofy dimensions/cut out of their countertops.
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13 years ago
This forum uses html, not ubb. The code would be

Imageshack doesn't seem to like me, but this is your first picture. Not very big, but if there's a way to enlarge it, I couldn't find it on imageshack.

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liriodendron
13 years ago
Congratulations on your new house and welcome to the forum!

Please make some measured drawings of your floor plan as words and pictures don't really describe what you have in mind. You'll need the drawings, anyway, so it's not just for our convenience. You describe it as tough to explain, but a drawing(s) will make it quite clear and we won't waste time (yours or ours) chasing wrong ideas.

Photobucket works well for parking images and drawings to import and insert in the threads here. It's free, too.

If you look at the READ ME FIRST thread you'll get info about posting pics in the threads.

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spud802
Original Author
13 years ago
FINALLY GOT IT!!! Many apologies.....

First time poster here...Just recently purchased a house through my city's First Time Home Buyer program, and the kitchen is #1 on the to-do list. I plan on getting new cabinets and countertops all around, but just extending the "L" shape on both sides. Where the eat in kitchen is, I plan to have either a breakfast bar (extra deep/wide countertop on L shape), or a raised 2-tier breakfast bar. However, I am having trouble in the back corner of the kitchen. My current house's kitchen is in the following pics:
KITCHEN:
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Wall Oven with Countertop
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Cooktop to right of Wall Oven
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As you can see, there are some angular challenges. If I keep the built-ins, I'll be spending more on new appliances vs. getting a Range, and will need the new countertops fabricated to fit a new cooktop cutout. Likewise, you can see that the cooktop/counter extends a few inches past the current angular wall, which is strange. I thought about using a mod. that another homeowner did with the same layout here: BUT do not like the built-in idea($$) and don't like the angular countertop cutouts where they extended if leftward:

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I'm thinking I may be able to make the mod above^^ but avoiding the angular countertop cut and just extending the standard depth countertop leftward....while adding in a Range where the cooktop is. However, I think keeping the angular wall above (to the left of the upper cabinets) would clash with the a countertop that does not maintain/mimic those angles. I may also end up having the wall stick out a few extra inches, as there is a hallway cut out just to the left of the wall oven. Short of leveling out the whole wall-oven section to the hallway, does anyone have any ideas? Its very tough to explain without seeing it in person. Thanks!

However, another house on this street with the same layout is also for sale. They made the following modification below The thing I don't like is the goofy dimensions/cut out of their countertops.
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User
13 years ago
Are those two different kitchens?
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brianadarnell
13 years ago
Wow! Congrats on the purchase on your new house! With all of those angles, that kitchen is tricky. Can you please sketch the layout on paper so we can understand the way it works? Dimensions would helP!
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natschultz
13 years ago
What is behind that angled wall?

Is it necessary to leave the hallway entrance into the kitchen? I think you will end up needing to close it off, at least with a half-wall.

Is there another entry to the kitchen? From the eating area - does that connect to the living room or family room?

WAIT A MINUTE! The wall BEHIND your wall oven / neighbor's range is NOT actually angled, is it? Your neighbor simply cut out the middle of the wall oven build-out and put in a range so they could put a D/W next to it? That is totally Bizarre!

If that is the case that angled build-out is completely superfluous!

Now, is that a DOOR behind your fridge? Where does / did that lead? And what is next to the fridge? The back of a closet?

OK, based on what I see, I would do the following. BUT, we REALLY need a full first-floor floorplan. That kitchen cannot be fixed unless we can see what rooms attach to it from where (especially bathroom / laundry with plumbing). Where is the back door? Front Door? Living Room, Dining Room? Where does the hallway lead?

So, just looking at those pics I would first put in a D/W next to the sink! Then I would close off the entry from the hallway, knock out that closet next to the fridge and put a larger entry from the Living Room into the eat-in area. I'd extend cabinets along the fridge wall as far as possible. If that wall actually IS angled behind the oven built-in I'd put in a corner prep sink. I'd turn your cooktop into prep counter with cabs underneath, put more counter and cabs where the hallway is, put a new range where that closet is, a small cab and counter and then shift the fridge over.

I'm asumming there is a LR entrance down there somewhere.

Alternatively I'd get rid of the table and chairs and extend the window wall cabs and counters and put the range on that wall with the breakfast peninsula further into the room. Still put a prep sink in the angled corner, but keep the fridge where it is.

We NEED a layout, and good measurements. Also windows in kitchen - where are they, what size and how far up from the floor do they begin?

Also some more pics, please.
A picture from the hallway looking at the sink area.
A picture from the sink area looking down the hallway.
A picture from the garage door (I assume next to the cooktop is a garage) looking towards the eating area.
A picture from the kitchen looking at the Living Room (or whatever it connects to) doorway.
A picture from the kitchen looking at the back door.

You have your work cut out ahead of you, but with just a bit of tweaking that odd space can be greatly improved.
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