Gel staining a dresser will it scratch off?
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@Beekeeperswife - Gel Stained Dresser
Comments (14)sorry, I missed this. I did not use the first part of the staining process, she used 2 different colors to make the color she wanted. Her first step involves a water based stain. I used Old Masters oil based stain in Spanish (Oak?). It's nearly black. I did wash it down very lightly to clean it with a little TSP, and then did sand it very very lightly just to give it something to grip onto. I did this during the muggiest part of the summer. Not a good idea. I think it took about a week to dry between coats. The trick is to make sure it is dry before the next coat. I couldn't be happier with the results. I also sprayed the hardware, they were some weird coppery looking color....See Moregel stain finish durability
Comments (2)Gel stain, or any stain for that matter, is not a "Finish" (despite what the can says.) They have a small amount of binder -- oil, varnish, lacquer, or whatever. When used between coats of finish they are functioning as a glaze and must be top coated. How well the top coat sticks is a function of what finish is on now, what you are applying, how long you let the glaze dry and how thickly you applied the stain (remember it has few binders so thick coats can be problematic.)...See MoreGel stain or regular stain for desk?
Comments (20)bobsmyuncle, you got me. Not sure what piece is missing for you. The bottom line is I want to give this desk a new finish, a new look, a better wood tone. I don't care if the grain shows and it still looks like oak. I'm aiming for a rich mahogany, not a dark java. This is not a set of kitchen cabinets that commands and defines the room, not even a bathroom vanity. It's a little desk in a cluttered office that I want to have a more pleasing color. My prior experience in refinishing wood has been with strip/sand/stain/poly. I'm now sitting at my kitchen table (maple or cherry, still undecided) that I refinished in a hurry 33 years ago and it will surely outlive me. Still looks good. So I still have a bit of a sanding mentality. As for the Sharpie marks. I did try denatured alcohol and it had no effect. They're close to the front of the desk top and visible enough that I wanted to remove them. Sanding was the only thing that did that. What's done is done. Remember, I'm *not* planning to put on so much gel stain that everything beneath it is obscured. The surface of the wood was rough in places. God knows what got spilled on this desk over the past 25 years. Mostly I've used a sanding sponge and that has smoothed everything out. On the top, some of the stain/finish has been gone long before I did any sanding, so let's call it the condition in which I found it. I do understand that gel stain goes over old stain/finish. My only concern is uneven color on the original, i.e., will gel stain be able to even out the uneven color? I suspect it will as I can apply a little more to those areas. I am somewhat confused by something handymac said. If I sand the old finish off (which I have only done in the Sharpie zone) I won't get it out of the grain, therefore the new stain won't stain. If that's the case, and people typically don't remove any of the stain when they use this product, how is it working at all for them?...See MoreSanded furniture with 400 grit to prep for gel stain
Comments (5)Alyssum, The gel stain that I have, from General Finish (Georgia Cherry), calls for 100-150 grit. That primarily being for getting as much absorption as possible; even though gel stains are not really meant for deeply penetrating wood. I am not sure how much different the darker stains absorb between grits since I have done tests between using 80 grit, 100 grit, 120 grit, and 150 grit. They all did pretty much the same thing. As for the smoothness, I would tackle this in the finish stage. I prefer to go with spray finishes on gel stains (mainly because I am lazy but because I have also had issues where a poly has taken part of the gel stain away on an area that hadn't dried 100%). Even if you tackle the smoothness via sanding the wood, I would still suggest using a finish to protect the stain. It will be easier handling things like water rings or scratches from a coat of poly as opposed to having to restain the entire thing. PS. the stain looks good!...See MoreUser
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