Aliris, did you ask me something twice? Just so you could get a handle on something like figuring out how to interpret information? Asking twice means you have now caused a situation where others might say later that I'm evasive. Which, obviously, I am. (Pause here, for the laugh). You are skilled at investigative work. You ask the same question again and again. Combine that with a newly acquired skill at craapdetector filtering, and you will be able to spot the hint of the truth behind the fog, static, noise. I'm sure you DO reject a lot of stuff along the way to the real story behind the story. So now you've set your sights on me. I'm too old and experienced to be categorized in any field or function. Decades ago they said I was too widespread in my interests and experience to be categorized. Now I'm older and it's less of a problem; people expect that I should know something based on prior living. I guess it might be obvious, but I'll say it anyway: I managed to dodge the bullet long ago when "the system" tried to channel me. It made me polymathic when young. How I did that is worth a story one day. In your case, aliris, you have sized up the problems well. Irritation. About 12 or 18 months ago a few people expressed irritation with my constantly asking more and more detailed questions about faucets, but now I'm able to answer more questions, and this helps now because it seems the forum is more faucet oriented than ever. Your first question about me in another thread proposed two categories, and just to be forthright with you, I'll answer : yes. Yes I am in or have been in both categories. To some degree, I have had to install or build things in other people's homes, in return for financial consideration. But it isn't what I do to keep afloat. The simple answer. Me: polymath; you: polymath too. Each with different sets of skills. I could include most of the forum's advisory participants in this polymath category also. Most of us could be good forensic people, or professional buyers, or project managers in multidisciplinary teams. I'd like to think I'm also so qualified. Ingenuous or curmudgeon: is it a strength, a vector, a means, or not? -- To get something nice and cheap in a faucet, that works well, try this one: "Moen 8125" along with a spout you like. The Moen 8137 is the 8125 along with a spout, but that is just one of several spouts available. The 8125 cartridge is proven technology. It moves effortlessly. Your little finger could move the handle with almost no muscle pressure. The 8125 metal jacket ("body") of the handle has a hose output, going to a Hydrolock Quick Connect device, which effortlessly snaps onto the corresponding (mating) Hydrolock Quick Connect on the spout base. What _This_ Means is that you get to choose how far apart the handle and the spout are to be. I like this, for my next faucet installation, since I'm figuring out how to shelf-mount / wall-mount it. Moen is so cheap, they have to sell through hardware stores. They cannot pay showrooms enough to support the costs showrooms have. Once you see the Moen 8901 or Moen 4901 handle you will realize that you have already touched this effortless cartridge before. The (new) 8125 has a different handle but it's got the same innards underneath. Adding CA before the part number gives you the low lead version. Moen CA8125. They explain the low lead being necessary because lead is the first of the metals to leach out. They actually explain it. What a concept! It behooves in terms of heavy metal leaching, but only you will know if it behooves your standing in life to have a hardware store classic as your faucet. more key words: "Single Handle Multi Purpose Faucet Body without Spout" -- hypotenusally thinking, your Ladylux could work as you mentioned. The money invested in it is a sunk cost. Compared to the money you sink into a car, it was almost nothing. Compared to the time effort and cost involved in going to see more faucets, the cost is minimal. It looks good to you and to others too. -- Hth

natal, thanks for the photo. It really helps since I wasn't able to visualize it, and it's good to hear that the positioning has an up-side as well. melissastar, I had been thinking about an angle installation so it's helpful to know that worked for you and quickly seemed natural. Thanks to both of you for responding with helpful info!

I may be wrong, but I had thought that the "Zedra" line was a faucet mass-produced by Grohe specifically for sale to real estate developers and builders who would be buying hundreds or thousands at a time. It was not meant for sale to the individual consumer. Maybe that has changed, or Grohe is still selling them in large counts, but now to a mass retailer like Lowe's. I don't know. The Zedra is similar to the Ladylux Pro which is sold to the individual consumer via retail and online stores. When you say "half the price at a private store", are you certain? Perhaps the private store was selling a different line than the Zedra. The various Ladylux faucets (Pro, Cafe, Plus, 3) range in price, depending upon finish, from approx. $300 up to about $475. So the one you saw at Lowe's is not half the price of a Grohe Ladylux faucet found elsewhere.

People seem to want to pay up to $399 but resist going to a higher price. OTOH, you use a kitchen faucet 10 to 20 thousand times in decade. (my estimation of number). A kitchen faucet is the one thing that doesn't fit into the decor by hiding along with the other lines and trim. It stands out. It doesn't blend in. It's round tubing, bent into a praying humanlike shape. I think it is worth it to spend more. " Does anyone have them, do you like them and how have they held up? " " I was leaning toward the Grohe ... I think this style has an on off button for the spray ..." Call or email Grohe about getting a model with a spray button that stays on spray once you press it. Call or email Delta about getting a model with a spray button that stays on spray once you press it. Some of the spray "wands" have a button you press once, others have a need-to-hold-down button. A spray button that stays on spray once you press it is a feature that I would like to have, and I would want to know about it on the main page describing the faucet. But, all too often, this is detailed feature information that the marketing people everywhere don't highlight on any web site of any faucet maker. I've heard them say to me that they prefer to hold back on this information so that the customer has to ask; it helps the showroom salesperson add value and play a more meaningful role. Hmm this might have been true back in the day when glossy brochures were the only text information available. The world has changed since then: participant discussion forums are now the key to getting informed. Terms vary. One fancy faucet maker has a term "mousseur" for a certain kind of wand, and they don't apply that term consistently across the line (!). Grohe is consistently high quality, and Grohe supports you if a problem happens. Delta is consistently medium quality, and Delta supports you if a problem happens. I may be too generous towards Delta. But, millions have them. Grohe is well known worldwide. Asia is where all the parts are made. There is no point trying to "manufacture" faucets inside the boundaries of any country, although it is possible to do some of the assembly (and call it made here). In Australia faucets often cost less, because it is too easy for any hardware store buyer to get on a plane and go negotiate face to facem and bring back a small batch (smaller than e.g. 5000 units). We are too far away, and nobody seems interested to place orders to bring small batches halfway around the world after using photos or video conferencing as their only way to see what they are talking about. -- Chrome can be very good looking when a high end manufacturer makes it. Chrome in medium quality faucet (the kind you can see in a hardware store) can be less than attractive. Stainless steel plate finishes can vary in hue from one maker to another. There is a range, from industrial gray to attractive light nickel to beautiful. If quality and looks are both important to you, broaden your search to compare KWC faucets. See them in person. Livello is available in 100% solid stainless steel; Ava in plated. A beautiful bent praying shape can be had in the Eve and Sin models, with a small pulldown wand that hides in plain sight, being housed inside the tubing. Of the four Sin models, I got the one with a Highflex memory hose that springs back to reset itself. Its wand has a press-once button to switch to spray. This is good for my Silgranite sink because it's much easier to rinse Silgranite sink walls down with a broad spray than with a narrow jet.