Hi Infohound - I'm in the same boat - have a Weber charcoal for about 14 years...after researching I have decided on the Napoleon Ultra Chef 405 - I think the pedestal cart model as it hold the tank out of sight and I don't want to pay extra for the cabinet bottom. I don't think I would use the rotisserie and have no info on the infrared. I also like the fact that the shelves fold and make the grill more compact so that I can store it in the garage. I plan on going to a local shop to see this in person before I buy. I'll let you know how I do!

Weber's basket-style rotisserie units are made by EZ Que. If you contact EZ Que, they can let you know if there is a unit available that will fit your Genesis, and you can purchase direct from them. Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.ezqueinc.com/

Care, I would find another Weber dealer. Your sales person sounds like a real a-hole... I wouldn't trust him with a quarter. I bought a Genesis 3000 when they first came out back in the 80s. I'm on my second one now, (a Genesis 1000; I didn't use the side burner enough to justify it) and it is about 7-8 years old. Still cooks great. I've never had a corrosion problem with the porcelain external parts rusting... the cover, the frame, the bottom tray. I did eventually burn through the flavorizer bars and the cooking grates on both grills; probably due to my lack of keeping them clean as anything. I've replaced both the grills and bars in my current 1000 with stainless. I've also replaced the propane hose with one that has the newer quick-connect fitting. The only other corrosion issue I've had is with the two rails that the bottom tray slides in and out on. I had to replace those. Weber sent me new ones at no charge. It looks to me as if the only significant difference between the Silver and Gold is the stainless lid, flavorizer bars and grates. Since you can get the grates and bars, I'd suggest picking based on looks... pay for the SS cover if you really like it. The Summit models have a double wall lid, which might stay cooler to the touch on the outside. But that's a lot to pay for something that doesn't really cook any better. Here's a link to compare the features: Here is a link that might be useful: There is a Compare Grills menu item under the

I have that Weber and am very pleased with the way it works and the customer service. I know the six hundred would have bought a bigger, snazzier looking grill in a cheaper brand but still, this is the first Weber I've ever had and for the first time, I really enjoy grilling. It does a low, consistent heat which is very nice for smoking. I bought mine last March.