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Question about spray decking products

14 years ago

Can anyone give me information on the durability, appearance, etc. of spray decking products. I know they're marketed under different names. In my area (DC metro), it is called Sundek. I am considering it for my pool surround, but it is expensive and I'd like to get some opinions first.

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poolguynj
14 years ago
A lot depends on the base concrete. prep work, environmental variables and surrounding environment. It may last 10 years, it may last 2 years.

There are lots of brands, colors and styles.

My favorite deck is still a 4-6' brushed concrete.

Scott
espools
14 years ago
It is a durable surface as long as it is applied properly and you stay away from water based sealers when you select the color that is typically rolled on after the deck has been sprayed. On new concrete applications, the concrete must cure before the spray deck is applied. On existing concrete surfaces, proper prep and in some instances, a skim coat is required for the best results to ensure the spray deck looks like new. Solvent based sealers are the best. A company called Increte is one I would take a look at. Take care.

Sincerely,
Mark
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huskyridor
14 years ago
quote" but it is expensive "quote

An acrylic knockdown finish is very pretty and comes in many colors.

In my area it's affordable, I sell it for $3.00 per sq/ft on top of new concrete.

I'm curious, how much does it sell for up in your neck of the woods?

See ya,
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14 years ago
Kelly its 5-6 per SQFT here.
to-the-beach
Original Author
14 years ago
Ha ha! Well, welcome to the rip-off off the DC area. Sundek is $16 per sq. ft. here. As I look at all these beautiful pools on this site, I am amazed at how comparatively inexpensive they are. (I know many are in the South.) I have seen some amazing pools with all the upgrades for $40-45k. You can't even start a pool around here for under $50k. I guess that's the price you pay for living in a metropolitan area. Once the snow melts, our project will begin and I'll post the progress. Thanks for your input!
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There are upgrades to the knock-down, acrylic and cement mixes such as pigments added to the cement mix so the color goes all of the way through the material instead of just 'being on top'.
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poolguynj
14 years ago
to-the-beach,

I hope that includes the pour for the deck. I suspect that Kelly include didn't that.

Scott

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