Should I put liners in for my new kitchen cabinets?
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Kitchen Design - Where should I put my appliances??!
Comments (21)The website below has excellent advise on how to layout a kitchen to function to the best of it's ability. Pay particular attention to #'s 3, 5, 9, and 16. Regarding your "work triangle", as you have it, it is 20 feet from your fridge to the sink !! And, around a barrier island. It is 13-14 feet from the fridge to the stove. And 8 feet from the stove to the sink. http://starcraftcustombuilders.com/kitchen.design.rules.htm Also, buehl has taken the time to gather LOTS of kitchen planning information in the following thread with links to much information http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg0722221917955.html Only answering your question above, where should I put my appliances, below is what I have come up with. The main thing it does is tighten up your core work triangle while leaving multiple locations for helpers as well (both sides of the prep sink, at the island, and at the cleanup sink on both sides). This change gives you about 10 feet from the fridge to the sink, 5 feet from fridge to stove, and 6.5 feet from stove to sink. (For the freezer, it is 15 from freezer to sink, and 10 from freezer to stove) It puts your prep sink under the window (70% of the time in the kitchen is spent prepping) and moves the cleanup sink & dish storage across the kitchen and closer to the peninsula seating for putting out clean dishes and gathering dirties. You have plenty of room for 2 dishwashers at the cleanup sink, if you would like. I have drawn it with two. Optionally you could also use a single dishwasher drawer by your prep sink for dirties generated there. You will need a trash pullout at your prep sink. Between the prep sink and stove is a good place for it so it can be used by both. You would want a small trash under the cleanup sink as well for scraping plates. The location of the fridge/freezer would allow you to use standard size appliances and recess them 6" into the pantry. I have drawn them recessed. This saves money over the price of counter depth and gives you more interior room inside them. The landing space on the island and by the double ovens is a little far away, but basically the same as it was in your original drawing. This could be helped by adding some length to the island to shrink the aisle between the fridge and island slightly. The hidden pantry door opens between the fridge and freezer. will2kz has some example pics at the very top of this thread http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg0700185724607.html. Although, he used glass on the pantry door, which does not make it as hidden as if you used the type you have in your inspiration pic. Here is another one where they did not panel the fronts of the fridge and freezer on either side of the hidden pantry http://www.drurydesigns.com/blog/artistic-transitional-kitchen-design-becomes-a-northshore-beauty/. And tons of ideas on houzz [https://www.houzz.com/photos/hidden-pantry-phbr0lbl-bl~l_2524[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/hidden-pantry-phbr0lbl-bl~l_2524) I have spread out the seating at the peninsula (rule 9) to give each a little more elbow room. Minimum calls for 24" for seating, but when you have a bunch in a row, 28-30" is more comfortable. When needed, you could fit more than 4 across. I moved one to the end to get away a little bit from the "lined up at the feeding trough" look. I changed part of the end of the island to overhang so one or two could cozy up to the cook for some personal time. Or to allow the cook to sit at the island to work or take a break. Edit: had to edit post for pic to show up. Sorry ! This post was edited by angela12345 on Fri, Oct 4, 13 at 14:50...See MoreWhere should I put the fridge when I re-do my wonky little kitchen?
Comments (3)Thanks, cpartist and lisadlu16, for your guidance. I have started a new discussion that I think includes your suggested items. If you have a moment, I’d love your input. Thanks for taking the time to tell me how to help people help me :)...See MoreWhere should I put my microwave in the kitchen island?
Comments (6)what are the dimensions of the wine fridge.I would probably have a smallish one and have it on the end of island so the person stands at the short side of island to open/close ..doesnt have to be in the kitchen main aisle. prime spot but wrong item to place in center like you show. 18 in width full depth trash pullout would be more than adequate....microwave drawer is usually specified at 24 in SHARP brand...leaves room for maybe tray divider or narrow rollout cab with these adjustments. 72 in island .....to the right of sink and anywhere else give yourself stack of drawers not rollouts behind a door...See MoreShould I accept those defects on the new kitchen cabinets?
Comments (51)Normally it isn’t needed to add additional piece behind the face frame(I marked as number 2). But he did and put pocked holes and screws on the number 2 piece, so the face frame (number 1) is weak. That picture is too close-up. I don't know what is what. I will say that pocket holes and screws in the case behind the face frame indicates how/ where the FF is attached to the carcass. I would like to see pictures of the assembled, unpainted boxes before they made the first road trip. What is clear is that these boxes have been bounced around in a trailer on more than one occasion and we don't know anything about the different climate conditions along the way nor how long they may have been subjected to cold, extreme cold, low humidity, heat, high humidity. We don't know how they were moved but they do show signs of being mishandled, even manhandled as in those popped glue joints. Perhaps exacerbated by poor climate control conditions. One possibility not yet mentioned is that the cabinet builder may have used some hybrid FF system. Like a full outside perimeter frame only and attached separate rails and stiles to the case for the interior divisions. But the photos are all too close up and out of context to determine if that is a possibility with these particular cabs. IMO, when the customer picked the cabinets up to haul to the painter, customer accepted the cabinets--having ample opportunity to inspect them as they were being loaded & unloaded. I can't see how the cabinet maker is responsible for the cabinets some however many weeks, miles, uncertain climate control conditions and handlings after they left his shop....See Moreraehelen
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