Newspaper Rock

18 years ago

Taken at the Petrified Forest in Northern Arizona.

People who farmed the Puerco River Valley 650 to 2000 years ago, pecked these petroglyphs onto the rocks, leaving a legacy etched in stone...

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Konrad___far_north
18 years ago
Nice take of this rockl, KT!
Have you edged in your initial?
Konrad
minrose
18 years ago
how neat, never seen anything like it.
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While I appreciate the feedback, and this discussion is kind of the point of a 'discussion board', I still don't see where my post had "errors". Between the posts of this thread, I have read that between 4-6 layers of newspaper is recommended. Instead of pointing out an error, you actually confirmed my statement. It takes trial and error to find the right amount (i.e. "difficult to control the quantity"). We'll have to agree to disagree about mulch mats and aesthetics. I can only speak to synthetic weed block and hemp mats. The synthetic stuff looks horrible alone, and I don't know anyone who doesn't put something over it. The hemp mats don't need anything over them, unless you don't like the looks. I think that's probably one of the competitive advantages of this product. If it's innovative, that doesn't make it wrong, or "never intended." The website says it can be used alone, so I don't know where the "never intended" comes from. True about gravity. It takes water, wind, foot traffic, or animals to move mulch on hills, along with gravity. I thought that was kind of assumed at our ages. My gravity comment referred to whatever is put on top of the newspaper on a hill, not the newspaper itself. It's spelled out clearly in my first post. No worries about the 'errors' in your post, annpat. Just trying to make a point! The term errors is pretty strong... To be clear, to answer the OP, I have used newspaper as mulch, and it has been successful. There are downsides to using it, just as in any specific type of mulch.
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kentuck_8b
Original Author
18 years ago
Thank You both! Utah also has a 'Newspaper Rock' but I haven't been to that one yet.

No, no initials:) They do not let people close to the rock above, probably for that reason. Anyway, the rock was below the viewing site and about 40 yards from where I took the photo, so I had to zoom-in to get the photo.

Kt
ronf_gw
18 years ago
There is something similar in New Mexico. This is at a very remote location. It's not protected at all. In fact I'm guessing only a handful of people even know that it exists. I just stumbled across it out hiking years ago.

Ron
kentuck_8b
Original Author
18 years ago
Excellent, Ron! Would that happen to be in the Gila Wilderness Area, by any chance? I took some photos of some when we were there a few years ago, some were off the beaten path.

Have you ever been to Three Rivers Petroglyph Site? There are over 20,000 documented petroglyphs there, they cover the entire hill and surrounding area. I took hundreds of photos.

It is the largest collection site of petroglyphs in the entire world. They have a fenced in area, but you can go outside of that area, but not everyone knows that, but that is where you find the most pristene glyphs.

Kt
ronf_gw
18 years ago
Hi kt,
I lived in Silver City, the gateway to the Gila, for 16 years. No, these petroglyphs are'nt in the Gila but, they're near there. Where is Three Rivers? There are also lots of petroglyphs near the Cooke's Range in SW New Mexico.
Ron
kentuck_8b
Original Author
18 years ago
Three Rivers is between Corrizozo in the north, and White Sands, to the south, on HWY 54.

We travel south on I-25 out of Albuquerque. Turn east(left) at San Antonio(Home of the first Hilton hotel). At Corrizozo, turn right, and go south. It is just a small stop in the road. There is a small gift shop off HWY 54, but you turn right past that and drive another 2 miles.

Plan on spending some time there as it will take hours, and even days if you want to see most of it. Like I mentioned, go outside the fenced area for some of the best and undisturbed glyphs.

There are also many in Chaco Canyon, along with the ruins of the Anasazi. Also, at El Morro(and the Ice Cave), south of Grants, there are more ruins with glyphs there along with early Spanish carvings in the rock face, some as early as the 1500's.

Kt
ronf_gw
18 years ago
I've never explored over in that area, kt. Thanks for the info.
Ron
octoberblue
18 years ago
That is so cool that you can go out hiking and just stumble across something like that without any fences or anything! It's hard to find areas like that anymore! Great pictures!
gmom74
18 years ago
We've been there- a long time ago. We have pictures - not digital- of that area. We really enjoyed it. Thanks for the memory!

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