wow! What a great thread! And I only came on the organic forum today because I finally made that compost bin and felt like gathering a little knowledge from fellow gardeners. Boy! Have you guys educated me! Along with the often unreliable words of 'organic' and 'sustainable' to describe gardening practices, where precisely does 'permaculture' fit in? I have had the opportunity to brush the surface of this topic, but haven't put it in perspective completely with the terms 'organic' and 'sustainable' yet. I know there is a permaculture formum on gardenweb, but this thread seems to be on the track of discussing such things, particularly how to "tread lightly on the earth" and how to feed individuals, families, villages and the world effectively. Organic farming is from the heart. It's such a long thread, I've already forgotten who said it. and I've mutilated the text, though hopefully not the meaning. That said, I'm in complete agreement with the sentiment. What we aspire to, ie producing nutritious food from the earth without damaging the earth, can not be regulated in any meaningful way until the whole of community changes thought patterns. The ideas of "nutritious food" and "not damaging the earth" need to be of higher priority than the profits that come of this coaxing life from dirt. Of course, many might counter that statement with thoughts on money efficiency. But here, I say again, these ideals can't be accomplished unless the individual, family, community and world changes thought patterns, especially as related to money and commerce. Well, I suppose that went off on a side-track..but I'd still like to know where you think 'permaculture' relates to the discussion of catchwords in agriculture and what the true wave of the future will be. Organic might be happening now, but how do you think these slacking regulations will affect the future of raising food? Trish

Got the new radio and the XM radio seems to be working much better with it. There is a sound difference when switching between the two, but it subtle compared to before and Bose said that there would be some difference..so, problem solved. Now, another question...I hate that Bose radio has its antenna in the power cord. We want to plug in the radio in an outlet directly behind it on our counter but have no where for the cord to go except for tying up the extra but the instructions say to completely unwind it because that is the radio antenna...this sucks when you're trying to hide cords...what do you do??????????

My father had a pair of Bose 901's, back in the late 70's. I have never been impressed by a Bose product. Seems like you either love them or hate them. I like the Cambridge radio, probably because I don't like Bose. As with anything, go with what sounds best to you. But, come on, it is just a radio.

It could be just about anything. I was woken up by voices in the middle of the night, once. It took me forever to figure out where they were coming from, but it turned out to be my computer speakers picking up someone's HAM radio conversation. I had to unplug them to make it stop. I plugged them back in the next morning, and it has never happened again. Oh, just thought of another one! I have a Curious George doll for the Grandbabies. He giggles when you squeeze his feet/hands. He sits in a basket under an end table, nice and quiet until the kids are visiting. I switched the wooden table out to one that is glass, and George started giggling on his own at random times, but I couldn't figure out what was causing it. Turns out the igniters on my gas cooktop were doing it. Apparently he was shielded under the wooden table, but not the glass.