Check out my list and see if there is anything you would be interested in trading for. I would like both kinds of seeds. If not I'd be glad to send a SASBE. Thankyou Sharon Cash~Gold Trader (on PlantSwap) Zone 7

R. rugosa alba turns a gorgeous, pure yellow to go with big fat red hips. Hansa also turns a fabulous yellow, but a warmer color tinged with red. Frau Dagmar Hastrup--mostly yellow, some red. All my rugosas (including Martin Frobisher) show some color--alba and Hansa are the best, tho. James Mason, a gallica, also gets nice color. As does R. glauca. Deutsche Danzig got very nice color for me last year as a new plant (including stems turning red)--I'm waiting to see if it does the same this year. Here' R. rugosa alba. Imagine an entire 6-foot plant looking like this:

The Bradford or other ornamental pears are frowned upon because they usually split their trunks or limbs as soon as they get limbs big enough (and therefore the wood is heavy enough to split) and there are other trees that if you give enough time to grow will reward you with better form and stronger limbs in the same amount of time as the Bradford pears. I think that you need to step outside of the normal boring nursery fare. There are many trees for zone 8. I don't know how much room you have though. I will say that if you have a lot of room the Southern Live oak tree, is ideal for your area as a lawn shade tree. However if you have a small yard and want several full sun plants in your landscape, you have many plants to choose from, but, my suggestions are not going to be of much help.

This place is far away from any populated areas. Far from the capital. In summer, there are more people. A little :) I like to walk here, as I can with the dog breathe fresh air and see nice old conifers. And I do not like places where there are a lot of people. Ireena