Japie, Very nice photos! I really like Manoa Beauty, and your Royal Cordovan looks great! Lisa had it right. I've informed Michael K. and Brian Weber about the name change, and I think I've told the story here before, too. The N. (princeps x Fireball) x 'Peggy Pollard' is a hybrid by Gary Hendrix that he finally registered in Jan. '06 as N. 'Bob Work'. It looks as though it's widely grown by members of this forum, and deservedly so! The seed parent (princeps x Fireball) is Gary's hybrid which he registered as N. 'Granada'. Gary told me that N. 'Peggy Pollard' (on my original label it was 'Peggy Pollard #13') was a plant that he got from Peggy Pollard's garden that later turned out to be properly identified as N. burlemarxii. hdd, I've had some fun hybridizing with it, too! Japie, Bob may be right in suggesting Ae. 'Fulgo ramosa'. Bullis also registered the discolor selection as Ae. 'Shining Light'. I don't know if it's the same plant masquerading in commerce under two different names, but I can't tell them apart by the photos on fcbs. Paul

Thank you all so much for the nice comments. ngraham, to be honest, this is one of my Wally World purchases, so maybe that's the reason it bloomed early... I don't know, just a stab in the dark. Or maybe this one was mislabeled and is really something that just looks a lot like WM. At any rate I have since learned a lot about culture tissues and am refraining from buying dls from the bb stores. Julia, thanks for the Photobucket hints. I usually use Flickr but am about maxed out on free photo upload limit. As soon as I get more dls to open, I'm sure I will get the hang of it pretty fast. Vickie

Hi harryshoe. I find that heuchera, heucherella and tiarella are really more of a shade tolerant plant rather than a shade loving plant. Very few plants that growers describe as shade loving can take deep, dark shade. For instance, many people will try to grow hostas (which are often described as shade loving plants) underneath their porch or on a dark forest floor only to find that the plants soon waste away to nothing. I grow all of my heuchera and relatives in at least morning sun. The lighter leaved varieties (such as the yellows and lime greens) will need full or dappled afternoon shade or their leaves will burn. The orange and red varieties can take a lot more sun and most of mine can take a full day's sun. The dark leaved ones actually need quite a bit of sun to grow well and are the most sun tolerant of the bunch. I'm I the PNW (WA state) and our weather is often dissimilar to other parts of the country. This usually means that I can grow things in more sun than other people can because it's generally wet and mild here. I'm not sure what your summers are like there in eastern PA, but I'm sure your heuchs would appreciate at least morning sun. You could try them in pots first. That way you could move them around your yard in order to find the spots where they seem happy. A word of warning, though. Heuchs get crown rot if they're too wet, so make sure your pots have great drainage and you only keep the soil damp, not soaked. I never grow my heuchs in pots here because it's too wet and they rot away to nothing in no time. Hope this has helped you. Heucheras are worth growing and are generally an easy plant once they're situated correctly.

where is the logic that sun might not be sun .. what different iws intensity ... and that is important on heavy water needing plants ... sun in the heat of the day is bad for such.. weak sun at dawn ... when there is no heat.. is still sun ...but not a problem to water lovers .. keep in mind.. many things listed as shade ... are simply shade tolerant ... you dont mention what you are looking at.. so its hard to give any guidance ... e,g. i have a variegated viburham ... in sun its .. did i tell you this already ... its nearly yellow with green highlights ... in full shade .. but for maybe an hour at sunset ... its green with gray and white patches ... they are about the same size.. sop i would conclude lack of direct sun does not greatly impact vigor ... also.. things like rhodie/azalea ... have a fine fibrous root system.. that is usually barely below soil level ... so hot sun on the soil... might cause water shortages in the heat of the day in full hot sun ... and might droop or start showing other signs of stress ... so no full sun ... but a few hours at dawn or dusk would..imo.. be irrelevant ... and in fact.. probably a good thing ... ken