Annette, You cracked me up!!! The coffee cup. DH says he picks-up more dishes in the gardens when the season starts then he does in the house. LOL!! I must admit I had to go back and have a look at where it was. Recently took photos in to the garden club and the members were looking for the coffee cups in the photos. they spotted 5. BTW, you'll love the Dame's Rocket. Don't forget to smell them. :O) mnwsgal, I have yet to do the spring sprinkling of the poppy seeds. Thanks for the reminder. It's so nice to see them coming up here and there.

Thank you all; you said: “remove the mantle” (HIwEase); “take the surround and end it from wall to wall run it up to the ceiling with different tiling” (Claire Larece); “painted the same as the wall color(…) 3 inch or so wide black metal frame around the firebox” (lefty47); “something that goes wall corner to corner” (beesneeds); “Remove the current fireplace surround, fur out the wall, and tile with large format tiles” (groveraxle). We did it, TY !! ... Now will you please help me out switching art between living room and family room? <new thread? this one is 100+ long>

Dark pink that has a better scent than Pink Peace is Baronne de Rothschild, hybrid tea hardy to zone 5. The scent is sweet pea and rose, versus Pink Peace is buttercream frosting on the own-root, but the grafted-pink-peace has less scent. Both Pink Peace and Baronne need alkaline pH & high calcium soil to stay healthy. Calcium helps with more petals. Below is own-root Baronne de Rothschild bought from High Country Roses: First pic. is a week-long old bloom that doesn't fade. Bloom is 4" across: Bloom of Barone is larger than Rouge Royal on the left.

OK, I have the DNA of each color. They are very close, and it might surprise you what the numbers indicate. The main feature is the Hue Angle. Red Tulip has a Hue Angle of 27.8 or 28. That puts this color in the Warm Red family and leaning toward Yellow/Red family. (so more orange possibly depending on your light) It has an LRV of from 20.5-23 depending on the source I use. So intense and low on the "reflective light" spectrum. Spring Tulips has an LRV 20.2-23.7 again two different sources I used so also intense and non-reflective. It's Hue Angle is 21.8. So, it is almost dead on the center of the Red Hue family, slightly into the Warm segment and with this location, it will read most "red". If you look at the Color Strategist Wheel I posted above and look where 21 on the degrees at the edge of the Wheel shows at 15-18 approximately you would be in the Red/Purple-cool segment. So Spring Tulips will "read" less orange and more toward purple. Slightly, but that is the scientific difference. The Lightness factor and the Chroma factors are nearly the same. 55.4; 58 for Red Tulip and 55.8;59 for Spring Tulips. So the difference is in what Hue Family it falls into that will reveal itself once on the wall. Again, these notations are based on readings with a "approved D65*2" Illuminant. Now you know why people trained in this technology and science can pick colors without actually seeing the paint color or testing on site! Of course, color is all "perceived" light so each person sees color differently. Men in particular, tend to be more "color blind" than women based on studies. I often run into this with clients. Once I explain why this is so, they get a real sense of relief that it isn't a competition, but rather a "perception" issue.