Marian - the paper size is 11"x17" for the course but I gather in 'real life' it would be at least 24"x36" or bigger... Mary - I have noticed the ads for the English Gardening School in the RHS magazine. And there are the RHS courses too... I guess one advantage of the U of G courses is you can just take the courses that interest you and they can count towards a certificate/diploma or not, as you like. So there no feeling that you didn't complete a program if you want to stop after just one course. The Internet format was ideal for me; it's just that the course content wasn't quite what I was looking for. I'll have to look around at options and then see whether I'm still in the mood to do something more once the gardening season is over for this year. Saucy - The reference to the clematises is in the verbal description of the plan. You need the plant list key to find them on the drawing (and the drawing posted here is too small to read the numbers anyway! :-) GB - I was going to consult with you about what ones to use but ran out of time and just named ones I was familiar with! The transparent house was interesting. I had to 'build' it from scratch with only the floor plan outline, the height of the walls as provided by the teacher, and the fact that there was a 2' roof overhang! It's not quite right I think on the back part of the house but good enough for the purpose of the assignment. The whole isometric drawing thing is actually quite simple to do - if a bit fiddly and tedious! You follow a straightforward process using fairly crude shapes for the plants (drawn to scale based on mature height and spread) and, when you put it all together, it produces that rather astonishing drawing - with zippo artistic talent required on my part! Since it was all done at a scale of 1/8" = 1' small details were killers to work with. It took me two days to draw that table and tuteur! Rotating things 30 degrees when they're that small and have so many lines (all those chair legs etc.!) is hard on the eyes... And since the technique produces a 3-D effect, I kept losing track of what was bottom and what was top as the little image seemed to have a life of its own and 'morphed' a lot :-) And tilting everything at 30 degrees started to 'get' to me - when I was reading something after working on the drawings for a while, the text of what I was reading seemed to be on a slant! But it was mostly fun - and good mental exercise :-) But now it's time to mess around in the real garden! I do hope to get out and measure things next week and do a proper scale drawing of the front garden and the changes I want to make there. (I suspect I may end up just 'winging it' as usual if spring gets underway quickly sometime soon and I run out of planning time....:-)

Great idea! I'm looking at my computer, that has your computer on it, that has Ian's pics on it...Cooool! Kt

Nice shot KT...That beach looks pretty cooling today. It's been in the upper 80' lower 90 the past three days... juanita

A lot of people probably think “oh that’s in China”. It could easily happen anywhere. It is very scary. They have cameras everywhere and are able to recognize people on the street within an 80-90% accuracy. They can use this to keep people from being able to fly, buy a house and many other things. And where does the line get drawn as what those in charge deem as “bad behavior”. I’m sure there are people here that think it couldn’t happen here or it would be a long ways away. Technology is everywhere and it’s increasing. There are cell towers popping up everywhere, we have smart phones and cars that have gps that can track where we are. Even our appliances are becoming “smart”. Refrigerators, thermostats, electricity meters on our homes, speakers, radios, personal assistants (Alexa). I’ve even seen a cat box and an instant pot with WiFi. They are working on rolling out 5g internet. There just isn’t much info on the effects of all of this on humans. I know it may sound paranoid and I don’t mean for it to. I’m just saying we just need to pay attention to things going on around us. We’re all so busy. One day we may look up and wonder how things have changed so much and how we didn’t notice. I just wanted to bring this up to see your thoughts on it to have a civil conversation.