I've seen them used, but never done it myself. Frankly, I'm a bit jealous that you have leaves to even use in your arrangments! And how could you sacrifice 3 gorgeous leaves?

Thanks :-) Maude, I have posted tons of OT (Off Topic as in not roses ;-) in the past that are archived. I shot a bunch from the roof, the deck, the mid level and the bottom to show the beds and walkways all the way around. I think you just search boxofrox and it shows you my bzillion and a half posts VBEG inga, coffee and pics.....what a life, eh ??? sunny, I just have a little SD200 point and shoot and great subject matter. Me and my blooms are up close and personal and they just make it so easy to figure out how to compose :-) Jim, momma ate that pup all by herself. We had a row of raspberries there and they croaked so we popped the peppers in and yowsa ;-) I made two more bouquets today to take to an 89 year old for her birthday and a 95 year old just cuz she's kin. The first is for the latter and the second for the former and a couple of new CP's for good measure !!!!!

Your roses, flowers garden structures, and garden beds are extraordinary. Your videography is extraordinary. I will point out for others that I lived in Tallahassee 40-years ago. It is a challenging area in which to grow roses because of the high risk of fungal diseases which makes Hoang's results truly impressive, and greatly appreciated from this distance.

Seaside, I appreciate where you're coming from. It's just that I have truly been a victim of the mob mentality of particular socio-political groups and demographics within this forum, and I do believe that I have handled the hatred and ill-will with far more grace, respect, and tolerance of these transgressions against me than what I received from them to begin with. It's part of true maturity to accept the experiences, opinions, and observations of others. This is what freedom of speech truly is. It's not permitting ONLY what oneself agrees with. Unfortunately, I don't experience such tolerance, intelligence, reason, and maturity in return. I can accept that. Certainly no one is perfect, either, and never will be. I can assure that my points of view are not somehow "evil" or nearly as barbaric and people-threatening as I've been accused of! Without respect of others and willingness to accept another's opinion and real experiences, there will never be progress made socially or otherwise. We have clearly slid backwards from where we were at in the 1990's. Today's world is not the one that I experienced or was promised growing up. Straw, thank you for your support, respect, and informative feedback regarding the situations we experience today. I appreciate and value it very much. It can be so stressful being the pariah, but I consider it to be one of the important life burdens I must bear and why I continue coming to this forum to view everyone's gorgeous photos and listen their stories and experiences. We certainly wouldn't be telling someone what they're experiencing their own microclimate is wrong because of our own gardens' climate being different now, would we? I've been here over ten years, many others longer than that, and I will continue to visit, share, and get my warm and fuzzies from ALL y'all's beautiful gardens that fill me with inspiration!  'Albertine' cloaking a dead plum tree... No matter the disagreements, never forget I still value you! Steven