No. In my opinion, it would be much too long for that window.

But it would only be the outside tip of the swag that would go below the ledge. Not below the sill, just the top of the ledge. I want curtains, but not full curtains which is why I like the swag. And the bulk will be at the side of the windows.

Here's what I don't understand. I've looked at a couple of different swags at CC. One I liked is sold as a pair. The one in the link isn't listed as a pair but is sold as "each."

In the catalog they are sold as a pair though! Plus both catalog and website says they are used with an insert valance, (which I won't need for the kitchen), but that means they ARE sold as a pair. Right? So why do they have "each" on there?

Can you explain to me what I'd get if I ordered 1 of "each?"

Also, can you tell I haven't bought curtains in 20 years since we put up shutters, shades and blinds? lol

The swags are all shown at slightly over one-half to 3/4 of the length of the window; most are shown in the 1/2-2/3 range.

I actually think the one they show on their website in the pink even looks a bit long on the window, at about 3/4.

What about doing the simpler valance on the window over the sink, in the matching fabric?

If you did an outside mount, the extra inch might not matter so much (even if it is meant to be a swag and not go down all the way), but I think it would look odd to be an inside mount and too long.

But are they really too long? I know the swags in CC's pictures are shorter than what I'm aiming for, which is on the long side. Semi-curtains if you will. Why would it look bad if they hang long, even if they were at the top of the windowsill?

I could always hem that one little spot.

Pal, I thought about valances, but I want material on each side of the window because of the roller shades. I want the roller shades to be seen when pulled halfway up.

Valances would still make my windows look naked, especially in the DR which is a double window.

I'll hit other websites to see what sizes and materials I can find. But I really like the pattern at CC.

If you are not going to use the insert, will the two side pieces meet in the middle, or will they just hang on either side of the window?

If they are going to meet in the middle, with the angle of the swag you are going to have a lot of window covered. Without the insert, you are going to have bare rod visible in front of the shade.

But they will still be too long, regardless. With an inside mount, you would want them to hit the sill at the longest. And then you also have the issue that if your window and trim aren't truly square (and often they are not), one side could hang longer than the other, which would be more noticeable when they are actually hitting a bottom point, rather than hanging free.

As for what you are ordering, I think the swags are sold in pairs. If you read the 'how to achieve this look' tab, they say they use a swag (not swags) insert, and rod.

But I would think they have a customer service number you can call and ask.

You mentioned shortening them, but given the height on the window, I think you would have to shorten the whole angle of the swags.

Have you considered cafe curtains?

I can tell you really want them to work, but I don't think you'd be happy with them. They are too much for a small, short window -- not just too long.

A plain valance or simple curtains would be better.

Not valances plural.Use the swags on the other windows where they aren't too long and a valance over the sink in the matching fabric.

Pal, I think that's what I'm going to do. It would be much easier, besides I forgot about the back door a few feet away from the large DR window, a valance there would be nice over the roller shade.

Natal, I had the 3 piece cafe curtains before we put the shades on, but I want the roller shades to show. I plan on getting new ones eventually. CC has the matching roller shades but I think that would be a bit too much.

Yes, "Valances" plural. I'm talking three windows here.

I'm pretty much sold on two valances and one swag.

But one more selling point. lol. Here's the kitchen window. The inside mount is due to the shelving, and IF I got a swag w/valance, the edge of the swag would be tucked in on the outside of the windowsill. A large part of me says it would look okay. I really really want a swag there. :(

Ignore the teapots, they're gone. So is the red ribbon on the roller shade.

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Look at the top right picture. Exactly what I want and visualized. With an insert valance in the middle wouldn't it work?

If you notice, the swag seems to be touching the windowsill, at least.

The shorter swag makes the window seem unfinished to me.

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Ditto what les said that even if the length were not too long--and it will be for that style window treatment, the angle will block a lot of the window. HOWEVER, it sounds like you're planning to do it anyway and were just hoping for affirmation here-- and I suppose, in the end, if you like it, then go for it. Not all our design decisions will meet with accolades from others... well, unless you're amazingly good. :~)

But ... those are much larger windows. I think what you want would overwhelm a small window. Why not try a mock-up? And maybe consult with someone at CC.

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I agree with the others, your window is too small. Sounds though like you have your mind made up, so go for it.

The examples you posted are festoon and jabot or panel combinations, except for that black thing, I dunno what to call that. The CC treatment you want is much less formal than these.

Oakley,

I made exactly what you are considering for my SIL's small window. Only it was all one piece.

I am going to disagree with the others and say that hers looks great. I made it just to touch the top of the sill.

If they are too long, all you would have to do is re-hem the top to shorten or have the dry cleaners do it for you. It would be a simple fix.

You definitely need that center piece so the whole thing doesn't cover up the window as others have said.

I can visualize it perfectly!

If they are too long on the sides will they also not be too long in the middle? So then you'll be looking at them and won't be able to see outside and they will also be huge light blockers. I would keep looking for something that is size appropriate.

Trying to shove stuff that doesn't fit into a room, tends to throw the scale off for the whole room. Just be careful.

Dawn, I'm guessing that the one you made for your SIL's window weren't 84" wide as these are, which I'm guessing is with the optional center piece.

I make all my WTs and I can see a small custom one working, like you did for your SIL, but to have 84" of fabric width in Oakley's window, it's going to be WAY too much.

Oakley, they sell the fabric, why not buy some and have someone make the correct size for you kitchen window? Then you can use a small tension rod inside the window. Note how the pic shows this style as an outside mount. You can get the look you want, but not with these ready-made ones.

Because that window is so small, if I were you I would buy the fabric and do a scarf treatment. That would allow you to make the "valance" portion hang exactly as low as you want it to and the side pieces can be as wide or narrow as you want, depending on where you pin them up at the top.

I'm answering my own question - they won't necessarily be too long in the middle. It will depend on where the window starts on the wall from the ceiling.

My3dogs-

I love your window treatments!

I usually make mine 2 1/2 times the window width. I guess I was thinking that her window would accommodate 84" keeping that in mind.

Oakley - everyone is so interested in figuring this out for you!

Suj and Rose, I already said I wasn't going to do it, I was just showing the above picture to see what it could possibly look like. Meaning, it IS okay to have a swag come all the way down instead of stopping in the middle. That was the point I was trying to prove. lol

My window is bigger than it looks in the picture though. Honestly, I think one longish swag on the center window and a valance on each side on the shorter windows would look right.

And I do plan on a tension rod.

Country Curtains customer service is pretty good. Not sure where you are located, but the sales people in the actual stores are very helpful and are knowledgable about decorating. I didn't read through all the posts here, so not sure if you have already done this, but it is definitely worth the time to call customer service and ask for some guidance based on your window measurements. I do also think that if you are only concerned about an inch of fabric, that it would be possible to have the top heading of the swag adjusted by a tailor to make the curtain fit exactly the way you want it.

I have ordered from Country Curtains numerous times, and when it comes to returns, they are also very good. So worst case scenario, if you order the curtains and don't like the final look, you can always return them and just eat the shipping costs.

Not only will the valance be too long, it will just be proportioned wrong for your window. The CC valance is also not the same as the one you pointed to that you really like, so if you bought the material you could have one made exactly how you want.

Okay curtain gurus. The swag is a perfect fit for the large middle window. And it doesn't hang too short either.

But this is where I think I'm screwed. My kitchen window is 36" wide. The valance is 80" wide. Wouldn't that be one scrunching mess?

BF, there's more than enough viewing room for the swags/valance to hang down the window. My roller shades hang even longer. The window won't be obstructed.