cost of costa esmeralda vs crema bordeux granite
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Comments (9)Take your door sample to the stone yard and take a bunch of pictures. It was pretty easy for us to rule out or Plan A after we actually got our cabinet up to the stone. We are considering some things now that we did not think would work. I say take your door to a stone yard and look at everything (even things you think you don't like). And I'm a big fan of Red Dragon. I think it could work, but of course you'd need to consider if you'll be selling in the future (resale problems?) or living in your house forever (would you get tired of it in that case?)...See MoreGranite quote - 2 cm vs. 3 cm granite
Comments (30)We have somewhere around 140 sf of granite in the kitchen; big kitchen with big island plus a buffet separating kitchen and family room. So the $14k price from the second place is about $100/sf (for both material and install). This is a quote for the exact type of granite we chose - we went to yards to look at various slabs and chose the Blue Eyes as the one we liked the look of best. Then our GC sent out the dimensions of our requirements to the two shops for quotes for our specific requirements. From what I have seen/read the Blue Eyes is on the expensive side, it reads more as a gray with blue highlights than blue, but it does have the blue which I guess adds to the expense. But DH is in love with it... The Costa Esmerelda slabs are cheaper - $8500 installed for 4 slabs. I think we're about 110 sf there (quote includes slab granite for shower walls in addition to counter and tub) so about $77 per square foot. I think what we've chosen is on the more expensive side for granite; funny how it seems to work out that way. Original allowances from our contractor were $10k for kitchen and $4k for bath, so we're over that (bath one was for granite countertop and tile shower, but I'm really leaning towards the granite for both and no grout!)...See MoreNo stone unturned�which granite?
Comments (6)Granite Fabrication Facts: Someone who you intend to hire has not told you a simple fact, or you have not even spoken to him. ".... does only 2cm counters, though .... I gather, the 2cm needs plywood under it and the bullnose is pieced...." Here is something that can happen, but seldom. It happen rarely so don't lose sleep over it. Knowing that it can happen should not influence you much. A natural stone can have a fault line in it, not visible to the eye. One day it starts cracking. No-one is to blame. It just happens. Or, to put it another way, it would have happened no matter what, regardless of the apparent cause or incident. The thicker your slab, the more likely your (rare phenomenon) fault will not start cracking until far in the future. The thinner your slab is, the more likely a (hardly ever occurring) fault will become visible, feelable, perceptible at any earlier date. For some people, a 2cm slab is strong enough to use to make a table, with no other support except for the table legs. They don't worry about the slab cracking one day. I have seen large tables made this way. A metal frame underneath holds the four table legs. If someone were to move the table around, even to lift one corner of the table they would stress the slab, physically. Nobody cares. In a kitchen, your slab rests on a stable base. It does not get moved around. One might draw the conclusion that a 2cm slab will be adequate, without any special support. Many people like to overkill. Thinkers, designers, installers, you name it. I've seen cabinets that were sturdier than the walls. -- Engineered stone ("quartz") comes from a factory. It has no hidden fault line. Outside the US and Canada, a 1cm slab can be deemed sufficient, physically. Here, people think a 2cm is thin enough (or "too thin"). Most quartz counters are 3cm. A waste of physical space and resources. Natural stone (cut out of a mountain, in a quarry, not the "quartz" described in the paragraph above) can be cut 2cm in the quarry and then manhandled severely for months, without breaking. It gets hoisted and yanked, trucked over bumpy roads, and transported into warehouses and distributors showrooms. Once they get it that far, they start to treat it with kid gloves because they managed to get it this far without breaking, and they have invested in it. This does not mean you must have a thicker edge applied to the front side. It also does not mean you must glue it to plywood or rest it on plywood. -- " Are there other pros and cons to the 2cm? " It is lightweight. It costs less to quarry and to transport. Even the installers like it better because it can be carried more easily. When you cut a large hole in it for a sink, and leave very little let over to span the two segments on either side, you create a delicate spot. Installers will tell you that this is where cracks have been known to happen on installation day or soon afterwards. There are a few methods that they use to "work around" this problem but none are surefire. The problem also occurs with 3cm slabs. The more you overthink this the more you overkill it. Overkill means trying too hard, doing too much, building things too strong. -- " Are there other pros and cons to the 2cm? " If you create a thicker front edge, beveling both the counter and the front panel, you make the counter appear thicker. For most people this equates to powerful and substantial, so it appeals psychologically. You lose the same amount of drawer space in your first drawer. I think it will appear dated, within ten years. In a bar, a thick looking counter is fine because it's not a place where you WANT drawers under the countertop. A bar is a place to go be treated like you are "somebody", and you get served. A kitchen is a "laboratory", a working place. Beveling little strips of counter to beef up the look of the counter is in opposition to the purpose of the kitchen. -- I have a 2cm counter resting on flat metal strips that rest across the base cabinet side walls. The metal is painted with antirust paint. Silicone is the cushion and glue on both sides of the flat metal. No plywood. Between the cabinet side walls, no counter ever sags. But, plywood sags (if you leave it there a long long time you will see it for yourself). So, in the final analysis, the cabinet sides are the only support, and they have always been sufficient. Using plywood is not bad, but it only does a fraction of the total job that we might think it is performing: between the cabinet side, it is not holding the counter up. Hth...See MoreAnother person who needs granite color help! (lots of pics)
Comments (39)I didn't see this when you originally posted it, but I would have recommended that you choose the coast green. DH and I both loved (& chose) Costa Esmeralda, which I think is darker than your granite. As many others have indicated, grey-green is a neutral, so it's not difficult to work with. Installed, ours looks a lot blander than we'd expected--sometimes I wish we'd chosen something more interesting to go with it for the island than the creamy neutral honed marble. With the lack of color accuracy we have seen due to camera and monitor issues, you're the only one who can really say if everything goes together. The right color of paint will do wonders as can a backsplash. You might want to live with the counters and cabinets for a while, and do the backsplash later, if that's possible. Our realtor insisted that the rough sawn cedar wall and trim in our lower level family room needed to be painted white to match the white stucco paneling to make it all look more blended and up to date. I refused to do it, although I took her advice on most other things. (It also had an interesting orangy/reddish/brownish carpet with unusual texture and orangy-red & brown Moorish vinyl tile squares!) I loved that room! In a VERY tough market, we had only 3 people look at it in 3 weeks, and 2 of them made an offer. They were from 2 different ethnic groups that, in my experience, have decorated their homes with more color than most people I know. Now I realize a LL family room is not the same as a kitchen, but even if the green in your greenest picture were accurate, it still looks pretty safe to me. Lots of people are going to love your green. All you need is ONE person to sell your home to, and not everyone likes "safe" colors. A lot of the new model homes (from a couple of years ago when there were such things!) were showing more bolder colors around here. When I was going through hundreds of model houses during the 6 years it took us to start building, I really got tired of seeing the same granites, and it was exciting when a builder had chosen unique ones for each bathroom and a couple of different ones for the kitchen and island. Anne...See Morepetra_granite
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