Behr paint problem
jbranch
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Comments (22)funcolors, painting professionals may be good judges of if a paint that they have in hand covers well and looks good immediately after painting, but they won�t know what looks good after 10 years because they rarely go back to look. I doubt that most paint pros that do only typical residential work could even comment even on short-term durability. Painters in institutional settings have an advantage. IIRC, CR used to test paint in the field by painting stuff and putting it out in a field. Unfortunately that kind of paint testing is probably not that useful anymore. The current marketplace that requires new and improved products all the time so by the time real-life testing is complete, the paint would no longer be available. Stuff gets reformulated constantly. That is why accelerated testing is more useful. Note that most of these are directed to interior paints. Fading resistance can be determined by exposure to UV light. (Painting a sunny room with plain windows?) Mildew resistance can be tested by putting painted surfaces in a humid chamber with some spores. (Painting a bathroom?) Abrasion resistance can be reproducibly tested with a machine. (How about a kids� room here?) How well paints clean off can be assessed by applying standardized versions of common household soil materials and cleaning with another test machine. (Maybe a kitchen?) How well does it cover? (How many professional painters paint over a standard test pattern with 30 different paints?) You should nudge yourself out of your parochial world once in a while and consider what other kinds of information are available. Consider how my general MO that would be tailored to paint choice. I consult CR and evaluate their test procedure. I see 6 flat exterior paints. Appearance after 3, 6 and 9 years are equal. One is not very mildew resistant and I have a mildew problem so I am down to 5. One has been reformulated since the test so it will be buying a pig in a poke. That leaves 4. Another costs $20, but the nearest store is 15 miles away. A couple cost $23 and $25 at nearby stores. One I can walk to. The last is priced at $40 and it is at the top of the ratings. It is low VOC, but I don�t care because it is outside and well-ventilated by definition. That is kind of pricy to me and not worth the insignificant increased performance. Oh, which to buy? I guess I will go for the one preferred by a painting professional, who has used one or two brands of paint over the last 10 years....See MoreBehr pain problem -- anyone else notice this?
Comments (12)I stand corrected. Behr now labels their Premium Plus paint as self priming. So, Behr makes Behr Ultra which they call "paint and primer in one" which is more expensive. Behr also makes Behr Premium Plus which is labeled "self priming". Go figure. According to my wife, a former Home Depot Paint Department Head, Behr Ultra is recommended by Behr for high contrast color changes such as white over black. Behr Premium Plus is recommended to cover light colors with light colors. Mainly, she's been told by Behr, it's the amount of solids in the can that makes the difference. Additionally, not all paint and primer or self priming paints are created equal, some simply dump in more titanium dioxide and call it self priming and/or paint and primer in one. The whole concept of paint and primer and self priming is a misnomer. Of course they do not have what is traditionally considered primer and paint in one can. I included a web link that helps dispel the myths. Back to the original question: Jodukus ultra pure white is grayer than the original. Did she ever find out why? Here is a link that might be useful: Paint + Primer In One...See MoreReview of BEHR self-priming paint and more
Comments (16)I painted the exterior of my old house twice. First time was right after it was built 'cuz I hated the cheap builder's paint and the second time about five years later because I changed siding and roof colors and of course paint color too. Not fun the first time. Not fun the second time. And I'll never do it again. Even tho I hired roofers to get the tippy top portions I wasn't comfortable reaching from a ladder, I'll never do it again. If you don't know what you're doing with a pressure washer, you can do significant damage that can be a PITA to repair or replace stuff. If you think you can use a sprayer to apply the paint, just make sure you do your homework. *Thinking* a sprayer is the answer and is gonna work or be easier, isn't the same as saying it *will* work or be easier. Spraying with paint is a whole 'nother skillset and involves some wickedly detailed prep. Frankly, I think it's beyond most DIY capabilities. Painting an exterior is a big deal and it's a big job. There's no way I'd waste time & money on just one coat and cheap paint. No way. Do it right or just don't do it. Lots o'times there is room for negotiation and some gray area when it comes to paint and color, however, IMO painting an exterior isn't one of 'em. An exterior requires two full coats of top shelf, quality paint applied skillfully over spot-on prep work which may or may not include priming....See Moreself-priming EXTERIOR paint? (Aura/Behr)
Comments (4)Stupid product or not, we used the Behr 2-1 on the exterior of our home 2 years ago. Our wood siding is very old and some of it is in rough shape - some spots even needed replacing / patching. We decided to paint it one more time - who knows how many times it's been painted already? - hoping to get through until we're ready to replace the siding in + / - 5 years. To date its been through 2 Canadian east coast winters & springs and I've have been very, very impressed. Surprised even. We had anticpated doing some touch-up work each spring but we've had to do nothing so far. It's been quite a relief actually. We had this house painted once before, about 10 years ago. The guy was cheap and used cheap products and did little prep work. I think it was starting to peel in places before he was even out of the yard. Live and learn I guess.... we were new homeowners at the time and didn't know any better. This time, we did lots of research and tackled the job ourselves with the Behr paint. Hubby did most of the hard work and was very, VERY thorough with the prep work - cleaning, scraping, sanding, patching, etc. I agree with Funcolors that this is a vitally important step. Took us most of the summer, on and off, but we've been very happy with the end result....See Morepaintguy22
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