island sink - does plumbing come up through bottom?
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Venting/Plumbing for Island Sink in MA
Comments (6)The island loop that live-wire-oak shows is the standard configuration for an island loop vent under the UPC(Uniform Plumbing Code). Under the IRC an island loop vent is a bit simpler...however the question is what is correct in Massachusetts? Massachusetts is primarily based upon the UPC but they have made a slight revision...Under the Mass Plumbing Code the vertical auxiliary vent must tie to the horizontal vent by means of a sanitary TEE and the vertical vent must continue down and tie into the drain line as I have shown in the photo. Your DH is correct that you may have a maximum of one AAV per structure with the expressed consent of your inspector, but there is nothing saying that the inspector must grant that consent. (Personally, I would make every effort to avoid using an AAV.) I would also be leary of your plumbers idea of leaving the countertop off and hoping to avoid the issue with the plumbing inspector. When they applied for your permit they had to submit a list of all fixtures in your house, and when the inspector comes to inspect he/she will have that list. If the list shows a sink on your island and it is not there at the time of the inspection the inspector has the right to withold approval until the final inspection of the structure. You simply don't want to get into a pissing contest with your inspector....See MoreSink in Kitchen Island - What Does that Add to the Price?
Comments (13)Thanks laughable, swapping the dining room and kitchen is a great idea - just not affordable for us since it's a 2nd floor (parlor floor) kitchen and the plumbing, electrical etc. is already on the interior wall not the exterior one. the kitchen on the lower floor did in fact get moved to the far wall for more space and the prior owners (who were DIY'rs so it cost them much less than it would cost us) used the basement to run pipes where no one cares anyway - it looks bad in the unfinished basement but good on the first floor. But the prior owners managed to muck up the layout anyway with an L-shaped kitchen with fridge and stove next to each on the short end of the L, and sink/dishwasher and cabinets and a nice end pantry on the long part of the L, which means the corner of the L is between sink and stove and includes a LOT of dead space in the corner that we can't get to (but one of our cats loves sneaking into, where we can't reach her). So we put in a small "kitchen island on wheels" (kitchen cart) that really helps, and then get in each others' way a lot when trying to cook as a team. I'm trying to avoid the same mistakes. We have an appointment with a kitchen design place that knows these old brownstones really well, and I'm leaning toward just going with a brownstone specialist kitchen design place. We might pay more but do it more "right" that way too, and it might mean I can ultimately take less time asking a gazilion questions online and not sleeping enough trying to figure this stuff out (including how to deal with the technology of posting multiple pictures to these posts!)...See MoreClean-up sink & prep sink both in island??
Comments (8)That was my thread :-) Your island must be full depth cabinets back to back. Is there a sink on each side? I am sticking with a two-sink island, 40'' x 108'' with another 12'' at the DR end. The kitchen side of the room is 13.5 x 13.5 with a little extra for pantry and refrigerator at one end. I considered several things that may (or may not) be applicable to your kitchen plan: Make the aisle width enough to be practical and workable. My clean-up side aisle is 42''. I will sadly be the ONLY one cleaning up. A wall is at my back; there is no need to turn around to work. The prep and cook side is 42''. Occasionally there may be another person on that side. I am working with a custom cabinetmaker, so the prep side will have 22'' deep cabinets rather than the standard 24''. Otherwise the aisles would be too tight. Consider, too, the pathways through the kitchen. Fortunately I don't have any significant thoroughfares. Folks will enter the house in the DR. It was a challenge to cluster appliances and work stations close together with a long island. The clean-up side of the island is not easily accessed from the cook and prep side. I hope dishes will slide easily across the island to the clean-up side when I am cooking. A high priority to have very few upper cabinets was the impetus for the wide, long island. I have only two wall cabinets (on each side of the cooktop). The challenge there was what to do with the dishes, and that the dishes be handy to the dining room. I am using dish drawers for everything but glasses (that go in the DR beverage hutch). This is the plan. A beam replaces a wall between the kitchen and DR with posts at the end of the island....See MoreRunning a plumbing vent line through kitchen cabinets
Comments (0)I have a slab on grade house, with a kitchen sewer drain that comes out of the slab approximately 6 feet from a wall. The sewer vent used to go straight up from the drain, but we removed the wall, and now want to extend the peninsula to the wall that is 6 feet away. I want to put a kitchen sink right on top of that drain, and run the vent through the base cabinet over to the wall, 6 feet from the drain. The drain appears to be 2", and my plumber tells me that he cannot run the vent pipe horizontally more than 5 feet unless it is above the kitchen sink. California does not allow an AAV. Any creative ideas to solve this? Can I run the P trap towards the wall and hook up the vent at 5 feet and then reverse the drain back to the sewer drain in the floor?...See Moreamberley
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