hello well I'm back, sorry deb I did not get a post in before we left, I got your box on sat. In my box was: several lily bulbs (fragrent) MMMMM a cute frog wind chime, I love frogs. and many many seeds, I can't list them all but they are all great seeds. thank you sooo much deb ***HUG*** I still need to unpack and catch up on e-mails and posts, but we had a great trip, I did not get to go to a garden, I was the only gardener in the bunch and I could not get anyone interested in going. but we went to Sea World, Gaterland, Disney's Magic Kingdom, and Disney's Animal Kingdom, and also took a drive to Merrit Island(I think thats how you spell it) and did some great walks and drives throught the wet lands. we saw the shuttle(from a long way a way) getting ready to launch soon, wild gaters, and bunches of birds(pink spoonbills, ibis, egrets, osprey, and many more), butterflys, and lots of tropical plants I would have loved to dig up :) well I think all my e-mail have loaded so I check in later. missed ya'll micyrey

Good Morning Good Afternoon and if I don't see ya later Good Night I have nasy nasty weather and the day off WHOO HOO gonna try to run out in between showers to get s few things potted. The Jasmine tea last night was great and very relaxing that paired with a good painkiller and I woke up on the couch this morning still in the sitting position...LOL Oh I was also tired from working all day I used the massager/File last night works great on fingernails too. There are so many great gifts bring sent how in the world will we choose a winner?? maybe a message with all photos in it with a number?? How are you gonna chose? V

Have you any familiarity with the Kheulavator? Agri Supply carries them. It takes some doing to get a variety of widths on raised beds and so I really can't recommend one. However, I've dealt with one for about 10 years now. I have a Kubota L4400 with a Lands Pride rototiller. After I rototill the garden I use the k'vator to hill the row/bed. I then rake it by hand to level it and establish the width and height. Usually my beds are about 10-14" above grade. The width can be anywheres from 8" to 36" wide. Wider than that isn't really practical and it's actually easier to just use the rototiller. I recently decided to design and build a bed shaper to fit on the tiller. I typically will ask the community at 'tractorbynet.com' to assist me with the design, under the appropriate forum(s). You can't cross-list so I try to ask specific design questions rather than one general question. I've been doing raised beds with a drip irrigation line arrangement for a long time. If you'd like to share info on them we could start another thread here or share on tractorbynet. I need to start taking pictures of the garden and progress anyway. I'm not the best a) housecleaner or b) photographer. I get a little shy of taking pictures of my garden as there is always some level of chaos i.e., tools scattered around along with drip fittings, pvc, implements, dying vegetation etc. Inhibits me from shooting pics. However I am sort of computer literate and can handle the upload side of stuff usually. This year I decided to put into use my jang jp3 seeder. I just did leeks and bulb/bunching onions. CAn't comment on singulation or skips as they're just starting to germinate after 2 weeks. I have a good assortment of rollers and look to use the seeder this season in order to get familiar with it. I have had it sitting unused for the last 10 years. The reason is the raised beds aren't really accepting of a multi row hand seeder. It also was binding on the rollers to the extent that you could not push it down the row cause the driving wheels would stick! Pretty lousy for a 1k USD machine. This year I hand sanded the rollers and their receivers until enough movement was created to allow the seeder's use. Johnny's seeds has been goofing around with them. They have a good cross referenced EXCEL sheet with their suggestions for type of seed/roller correspondence. Makes roller selection better than guessing although the top of the seed hopper has indentations for seed/roller identification. If setting up a thread for discussion sounds amenable to ya let me know ok? Is there a way to PM on garden web? psient Psient

The Amazing Race inspired me...lol Empanadas Shell: 4 cups all purpose flour 2/3 cup veg shortening 1/2 tsp salt 1 tsp vinegar 1 cup water or as needed Cut the shortening into the flour and salt with a fork or pastry blender. Add the vinegar and start with 1/2 cup of water, mixing with a spoon(I use a wooden spoon). Keep adding water until it has a dough consistency...not too wet, it should NOT be sticky. Roll out on a floured surface to a thin, pie crust consistency, about 1/8". Let it rest while you make the filling. Filling 1 1b. ground beef or chicken or pork or? 1 tsp. ground chili powder 1/2 tsp seasoning salt dash of cumin 1 med yellow onion diced 3 tsp minced garlic 4 oz can seeded/cooked diced green chiles 1 red bell pepper, seeded & diced Brown hamburger in a skillet until almost done, then add the onion & bell pepper, simmer till onion is glassy, then add rest of the ingredients. Note: I drain the oil off the hamburger and replace it with 1/2 cup of water to keep the filling moist. Cut the empanada shells into 4" rounds, I used a plastic can lid or use a small coffee can or other? Gather and left over dough, roll into a ball and roll out to cut another 4" shell out of. Spoon about 2TBL filling onto the middle and fold sides up pinching inward to each pinch to create a rolled edge effect "OR" use a fork to press the edges together. Preheat the oven to 375F. Cook on an ungreased baking sheet for 7 minutes, then turn, bake another 7 minutes. You can eat an empanada like a little meat sandwhich or smother in sauce like an enchilada, top with sour cream, cheese, lettuce and tomato. You can also fill with a cheese filling or your choice. Makes 24. Can be refrigerated or frozen for later use.