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Oct Mom has met her match-Dr Phil today!

Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana

17 years ago

He is trying to give her a wake up call now.

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okwriter
17 years ago
If everyone is so tired of hearing about this woman and her babies, why is it still being discussed here in yet ANOTHER thread?
kathi_mdgd
17 years ago
Doesn't come on here until 3pm.i do plan on watching.She was on their yesterday as well.
Kathi
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Mona and Deborah nailed it. You still haven't told your husband about her behavior with boys, have you? I don't know what the "sensitivity" is about not telling him, but your daughter's behavior trumps that. I cannot stress enough that he MUST know now. I don't care if he screams at the top of his lungs, hits his fist through a wall or throws something, he'll calm down and think rationally once he gets over the shock. lol If she were my daughter, she'd be grounded for the summer. I too had raging hormones at 12, and they were totally out of control. Thankfully I didn't have sex but I sure did like to kiss boys! All it took was for my dad finding me and a boy together at 12 years old kissing him. It scared the pee out of me! lol. Oh, he was mad alright but I changed right then and there. Shannon, you're trying too hard to make your daughter happy right now. Nix all suggestive clothing. It's time she dressed and behave like a young LADY. Tell her she will be greatly respected behaving like a lady instead of an "easy" girl. I think it would be fine if GIRLfriends came over to visit, chaperoned, and if she goes to a GIRLfriends house chaperoned with parents you approve of. I wouldn't allow her to walk anywhere. Or go shopping alone either. Someone needs to have the "Come to Jesus" talk with her ASAP or it will be way too late.
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susie53_gw
17 years ago
I am watching it right now..This girl does "NOT" have a clue about what is going to happen soon. Her Mother is coming on next.. I know she is going to have to have alot of help but I am dead set against handing the woman a bundle of money. Someone has to control the money... This woman doesn't have a clue.. She will never be able to raise them without help... She is one selfish woman...

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minnie_tx
17 years ago
She's been offered a million or millions to pose nude. Maybe this is the break she's been planning on

IMHO She is an embarrassment to womanhood
foggyj
17 years ago
I do hope they can find a way to get those babies in other homes. She would cause the families grief though, I'm afraid.
grammahony
17 years ago
Pose nude??? My body probably looks better than hers after being stretched that big.
She's so into herself.
Leslie
golfergrrl
17 years ago
Actually, she's been offered $1 million to film a porno movie.

Here is a link that might be useful: tmz story
lilliepad
17 years ago
I don't know if I am about to reveal the outcome of the show to anyone who didn't see it in it's entirety,but I guess it really doesn't matter since everyone seems pretty disinterested anyway.
I watched the whole show and I have a whole new perspective on this woman now.I originally felt like everyone else,that she was selfish,in it for the money,etc.I think Dr.Phil did make an impression on her and made her think a little farther into the future than what she has been.He concluded that she lives in a fantasy world,has little concept of the real world and is immature in her thinking and problem solving skills.Because I have some family members who have the same problem,I can fully understand it.It's not their fault and nothing anyone can do can change it.Their minds just don't work in the same way that some other people's minds work!
She did finally admit to Dr. Phil that she made a mistake by becoming pregnant again and by having all 6 embryos implanted.I do understand her thinking about implanting all 6.she thought it would result in only one or maybe two and she didn't want to "kill" (which in her eyes is what it would have been) the other embryos.Yes,she could have kept the other embryos frozen indefinitely,but in her mind she was "done having babies" and using all the embryos made it "final".At the end of the show Dr. Phil said that she called him after she came home from the hospital that evening and told him that she had realized that the nurses had been taking care of her babies and that she hadn't really thought ahead to what it would actually be like when she got them all home.She said also that she realized that she hadn't cried in months,and that she had been crying since she got home.She also sent him a multiple page list of things that had to be in place before the hospital would allow her to bring those babies home and she was very concerned about that.Regardless of what we think about this woman,those babies are here and she will need help to care for them and her other children.As the old saying goes,lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater (no pun intended).
Also remember that there are people out there who will try to profit from all of this.I don't put much stock in "they say". JMHO

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