I know I posted to this but don't see it !! java : I sure hope you can get down there. Thank you ! I love the image of Mom Buttons !! SG,,,,yes following ones own path is so hard to do at times and yet can be so rewarding. We have told all of our children to do this and at present they are all following very individualized paths that are so rewarding. We are indeed proud . Thank you for such an insightful note. tina: he and DIL were there for exactly one year before going to The Red Hen. He loves the intimacy of the Red Hen so he is glad he moved on. I sure hope you can visit some day. Thank you !! nancy NO !! He only made mac and cheese from a box until he left for the USMC. That is where he became interested. Although I do believe all the latent talent came from his Mom and Dad and all the meals he had with us. That is all he talks about now is what we used to fix at home and he asks me all the time for my recipes and old family recipes from his grandparents. We are so happy for them. Thank you !! lynn: thank you !! I sure wish you were closer too. It is such fun to see our kids do well. I hope it continues and he can bring the experience of fine dining to more and more folks. c marlene...thank you !! He is such a sweet sweet baby. He has the best chuckle. We love him to pieces. !! tea...thank you !! Wish you were closer...you would get all the loaves you could stand. !! c

"NO" is not semantics. "NO" is "NO". If driver's licenses are so easy to counterfeit, then *don't do it*. or maybe you should ask the girl's father or mother or a teacher how old she is. If you can't find out, *don't do it*. This is really one of my very hottest hot buttons; Years ago, a friend was raped. She was studying in her dorm room during Christmas vacation (almost no one else was on campus) when a student from one of her classes knocked on her door & asked if he could borrow her notes about something or other. She opened the door...& he raped her. She reported it to campus police, who made a report (!). She called her mother, crying hysterically; her mother called the police, & the assault went to trial. The defense attorney asked her if she hadn't unlocked the door. yes. "Aha! so you *invited* him into your bedroom!" & what was she wearing? a flannel nightgown. "Aha! so you were in your *nightgown*!" Barbara broke down in hysterics, the guy walked, & Barbara left school for nearly a year; when she returned, it was to another university. When an assailant is believed & a victim is disbelieved simply because the guy is a guy & the girl is a girl (& this is almost always the case, especially in sexual assault), there's something terribly terribly terribly wrong. It's especially distressing to hear the "victim is guilty until proven innocent" in the year 2010; Barbara was assaulted in 1969, & attitudes have supposedly become more rational, enlightened, & accurate in the intervening 41 years.

Hello Restless, I can't give you any direct advice, because I am so new at this whole relationship thing (my husband is my very first relationship in ALL ways). He's older than me by almost 14 years, so I'm a little bit in the "older spouse" category. But anyway, someone on this board recommended to me the Five Languages of Love and it really was SO helpful. It was actually the closest my husband would get to any kind of counseling or help with our issues. It led to both of us gradually changing some things in the relationship for the better. If you look at my first thread "is this a healthy/unhealthy marriage (or something like that), the direct link is in there somewhere. Ir might even be my second thread after that one, but it contains a lot of helpful links, and the Five Love Languages was the best for us. You probably could even google it as well to find it. I hope it helps! P.S. my little attempt at some advice: do you initiate the type of affection with your husband that you desire? Maybe that could clue you in as to if he is receptive to putting more affection into your marriage? My husband responds to gestures of affection from me more than anything else. His love language is touch, though ... This post was edited by wifey1281 on Wed, Jan 16, 13 at 11:40

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