now is the time ... i would go for about a two footer .. just less stress all around ... probably wont even know it was moved ... though as noted.. knowing what kind of pine might make a difference .. i would bare root it ... and shoot for about a two foot spread of roots ... free range pines.. probably have a very shallow root system .... in my sand ... if damp ... you can nearly pull them out ... though a little spading will help ... trim all broken root ends ... you should be able to tell in very early spring.. whether the buds are elongating.. if not... move another .... since you seem to have an unlimited supply ... now is a good time.. since it will have two cool root growing seasons.. before the heat of next summer ... rather than waiting until spring.. and hoping it will get 6 to 8 weeks before the real heat hits ... this should work for z6 and colder .... though it might be getting a bit late further north .. ken

Hi Hey_J I've pretty much run out of room, so am starting to look hard at smalls and minis. All of the Mouse Ears sports are at the top of my list for next year. My list is short (my open space is...gone?) Commenting on your wants that I own... Aristocrat has a nice tidy shape, is somewhat slow, so good to buy a potful locally. Bright Lights for me is pretty, but slow and small. I think Heat Wave is the tet version, grows MUCH better, has better color, is one of my most favorites. Brother Ronald. Good-looking dark blue, pretty flowers if the deer don't get them. Maya Swingtime- bought it in 2005, for me it burned in only partial sun (white spots) early in the season, so I moved it to shade. Not a fast grower here. Like Sea Gulf Steam MUCH better (similar look) Deep Blue Sea- Very dark blue leaves and VERY bumpy too. Steady grower, not a big blue. Mine grows on the north side of a tree, so maybe it would be bigger with more sun, but I want the max blue. Hadspen Blue- Holds its blue all season, even in some sun, nice tidy round mound. Still popular for a reason. Kiwi Full Monty-super plant, grows well like other Striptease sports. LS Sparkle Plenty. Mine was dinky when I received it, and the critters tunnel around it. Needs to be moved. Not impressed, but it has been tortured & is a survivor. Mack the Knife-pretty, but the slugs seem to like it. They weren't a problem until the new lamium gave the slimy buggers a place to hang out. Note to self: move the lamium, or move Mack. Easier to move Mack. The lamium is out of control after one year. Montana Aureo-a must have! Keep trying! Winfield Blue-one of the bluest early on. Nice wavy leaves like Salute. For early blues, I think I like Carolina Blue better tho'--increases faster(but not wavy). ~Bunnycat

Emerald: Words don't work at a time like this......but prayers do! And in that vein, prayers are flooding your way. You WILL find the right words to talk with your mother. You WILL find the right words to console your husband. You have already found the right words to convey to us. You ARE stronger than you think you are. You ARE a mother! ~ We grieve with you and for you. I think this entire experience which you have been so gracious to share with us has brought out the goodness and grace in both you and us......and for that we can all celebrate. You are closer to us than possibly any other poster. You have touched our hearts and souls and brought out the best in all of us. How we conduct our lives from here on out will speak volumes to this experience. Thank you for allowing us to be enlightened in and through your journey. My heart is heavy in your loss. God will continue to guide and be good to you. We are here for you in more way than you have yet to discover.

Her last post on Rose forum Nov 6 - so you don't have to go to link and scroll down (hope you don't mind) "It's been a rough few weeks. After the surgery & healing he was feeling better and probably could have gone to work for a week but couldn't due to the disability paperwork. It was a lot of stressful waiting to see if he was going to do a clinical trial; a drug I wished he'd get but the computer ended up putting him in the group that didn't get the drug :( The drug has been used on other cancers with good results but it wasn't meant to be & I'm sure there was a reason. He originally did not want to do the trial but changed his mind at the last minute. I know that things happen for a reason & feel that his dad who passed after my dad probably had something to do with it. We found out Friday about the trial; lady emailed me and told me they would set his chemo & radiation Monday when he went. I let him go alone Monday because me being there with him is making him feel like he's "sick". When he went Monday he found out he'd get admitted on Wednesday. Tuesday came, the gal I email told me that they were having insurance issues and we might not have a time until the next morning. At 8am she called and said to be there by 10:30. He was admitted, given a room then told he'd also have radiation that day (which we didn't know). I ended up leaving right before they took him for radiation. Mass transit was on strike & if I didn't leave I'd be stuck in traffic all night since most people had to drive into the city. After radiation he had lots of pre-chemo meds through the IV; chemo at 8pm which took 2 hours. Of course he didn't sleep much that night due to all the liquids they gave him. We timed his release so that I was pulling up when he walked out. We did this because he was feeling ok & I'm trying to give him a little space. The parking charge is also outrageous; why pay $10 to run in and get him? So, he had to go back in today for radiation and a taste bud study; he was up to driving there so he drove in; I then went back home and picked him up a few hours later when he was done. He's exhausted & has been sleeping since we got home. Thankfully we don't have to go back to Philly until Monday which his son will take him; my daughter has a Dr appointment I have to be there for. Tuesday will be a long day. In addition to radiation he has the oncologist. The next chemo will be November 25, another over night stay with the last being December 16th. Thankfully he's only having 3 chemo treatments but there are large doses. Please say a prayer for my neighbors mother in law. I found out a few weeks ago that she was diagnosed with Lung Cancer; and found out yesterday that they want to remove her lung. I feel helpless. She's not in NJ, I can't give her advice on where she should go." Update us when you can!