We are also building a future retirement home on the lake. Just getting framed. I put extra an dishwasher and sink in the walk in pantry. Hoping to keep some of the mess out of the kitchen. We'll see. Thinking of putting the extra oven in there too. Can't decide between that and a pro-style range with 2 ovens. They seem so big. We have a coverd porch with a fireplace. It's closed in on three sides and open towrd the lake. Thought about doing big nano type doors, but left them off for now. Also, friends said an ice maker is a must for the lake. ( but not in the kitchen because of the noise) Your plans sound almost like ours. Loft, bedrooms,baths upstairs. Main master and 2 bedrooms and baths downstaris. We are also putting a bonus room above the garage. We thought for extra sleeping. Good luck with. uyour plans

If I understand you correctly, the Breakfast Nook is the space where the Deck & Lake View are? If so, I don't think you have enough room for a table there. Your table should be at least 48" from the island if there's no seating at the island and at least 60" if there is seating at the island.

Then, the depth of the table (36"? 39"?) then at least 32" b/w the window wall and the table.

60" + 36" + 32" = 128" (10'8")

You appear to have maybe eight feet b/w the island and the wall of windows...that is a wall of windows and no doors, correct? If there's a door there, then you need more than 32" b/w the table and door...more like 48" (so add another 16" to the above measurement...12'0"). [It looks like the doors are on the right wall of the BN and on the top wall of the Den, is this correct?]

You really need to add another 2'8" to the depth of the Breakfast Room or eliminate seating on the end of the island and add 1'8" to the depth of the Breakfast Nook.

As to a bay, I like that idea. It would give you a better view from 3 directions instead of just straight out the back.

As to your MW & Coffee Center...if it were my kitchen, I think I'd want the Coffee Center to be left of the prep sink and the MW in the island facing the prep sink...preferably a MW drawer. This would give you a Prep Zone b/w the prep sink and refrigerator while keeping snackers from getting in the cooks way when using the MW. The MW is still near the refrigerator (for warming up leftovers or cooking frozen veggies).

I will say this, if you're planning the main Prep Zone next to the prep sink, there's going to be a disconnect b/w it and the range...something I wouldn't want.

If you plan the main Prep Zone to be b/w the range and cleanup sink, it will be better b/c of the proximity to the range as well as a water source. However, it will be a bit of a distance from the refrigerator, which would be an acceptable compromise to me, but YMMV.

The Dining Room looks to be pretty far from the kitchen...are you sure you want that?

Is the "Den" really a FR? If so, I understand the placement, but I would consider putting the door in the kitchen that leads to the hall & DR on the other side, closer to the DR...b/w the Cleanup Zone and the Cooking Zone (range). It would mean some shuffling around of appliances, but it might give you a better layout in the end. It's something to think about.

Here's something a little different incorporating most of my suggestions plus a bit more...

I put an 18" cab b/w the DW and the sink only b/c I thought it might be more useful having more space b/w the two different counter levels and b/c an 18" cabinet is more useful than a 15" cabinet.

The work zones:

Janet: I'm looking forward to hearing about your progress. Ours is on a hill facing the lake. How about yours? I wish we were in the framing stages--then again, we've had a hard winter here. This build will be 2 hours from our home here.

Buehl: Thanks for your kind response.
I've thought through the door closer to the dining room situation. In fact, the original kitchen plan I saw had the "L" on the same wall. We've done the design based on everyday life, not on the exception.

My preference is to have the door for the kitchen closer to the garage for hauling groceries in. I originally had the door where you put it, but would prefer an entrance to the laundry hall and removing recyclables. It's more practical.

The dining room would be for my long table with the 4 leaves. It's really a part of the great room. I don't have any walls between the dining and family room/living room/den...whatever you call it. I can spill into the FR's walkway and FR. I have a totally useless dining room now. Oh, it's where we put the "kids table" when I have company. And we do our taxes on that table.

I wanted the FR to be closer to the outdoor view and back deck. The dining room will face the road--the one room where the view won't be as stunning. It will be the least-used area.

I had begun to suspect there wasn't enough room for a table in the breakfast nook. I've just realized that the overhang on my island was only 12" instead of 15", the size everyone recommends.
In my original plan, is it possible to use the regular sink as a prep sink unless we have company? We are very close to just the 2 of us.

I like the 18" cabinet between the DW & sink.

There will be no exits from the nook to the outside. One will be from the FR and one from the porch.

Thank you for looking at my plan!

Bump.

Thinking!

I want to re-read this thread thoroughly this weekend...I haven't forgotten you!

Bumping so buehl can continue thinking.
Others are free to chime in.

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