Illuminating wall art with recessed halogens
joelmr
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remodeler_matt
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Low voltage MR16 VS line voltage PAR20 or 16, for recessed light
Comments (13)mcassel, I think part of the info you're missing is this: The MR in MR16 stands for Mirror Reflector. The AR in PAR stands for Aluminized Reflector. Highly polished mirror reflectors are able to direct light in a very focussed, controlled way, so the light the bulb produces can be directed to in a very specific direction (yielding a high candlepower in that direction but throwing little light off to the sides. This effect is increased with low-voltage bulbs because the filaments are smaller. However, the tightly controlled beams that are native to these bulbs can then be softened and adjusted with optional diffusing lenses that dim4fun mentioned. Aluminized reflectors are much less polished and tend to scatter the light, so less of the light is concentrated in the middle of the beamspread, and more is sent off to the sides. If you want dramatic, spotlight-like effects then the MR bulbs are the way to go. If you want softer-edged light, or if you're trying for even lighting, where the pools of light from adjacent fixtures can blend together somewhat seamlessly, then PAR lamps are probably the better choice. If you want soft light but need especially small or versatile fixtures then MR-types with diffusing lenses might be the solution....See MorePlease Help me with my Recessed Lighting! (Alzak? Halogen? 6 in?)
Comments (3)First you have to know what the inulation is over your ceiling. You will be limited to the wattage for insulated ceilings unless you are using batts and not blown insulation. My most favorite light solution in a kitchen is the deep alzack refelctors (deep)They use regular A lamps and if you purchase good quality ones, they spread the light out wonderfully and have a great cut off anlgle which controls glare. IF you buy cheap specular trims and the bulbs sit low in the trim, it is very bad. Juno and Lightolier both make deep alzack trim. Not sure about Halo, haven't sold them in a while. The very best ones in my opinion were made by prescolite but they can be hard to find. On an 8ft ceiling you will not need more than 75 Watts. Another tip has to do with the bulbs. While I am a big proponant of 130 V long life bulbs, they are slightly more red than the 120's. What works the absolute best in a good alzack reflector is a soft white, sometimes called reader white bulb. Use these with a dimmer to extend the life of the bulb and adjust the dimmer whenever you don't need all the light. Recessed lighting can be confusing and with all the bulb changes coming, even more so in the future. The LED bulbs that were suggested are great for energy savings and also they never burn out. I still find them strange however for lighting kitchens and the deep alzack trims are not designed for anything but an A lamp.If you buy a reflector trim and then use either a Par or R lamp, you wasted your money. As to spacing, IF you are lighting any room other than a kitchen then 4 deep alzack reflectors with 75-100 watts iis fine for general lighting. Kitchens are more comlicated since we need both general and task lighitng. I would use 6 if that room is a kitchen making sure that you have all the work areas covered. In a kitchen if you place the recessed cans 18" from the wall, the light will fall on the counter surface and also illuminate the cabinet doors and inside spaces when open. Don't forget to have lighting over any island work space. Use undercabinet lights under your counters. That is a good application for LEDS. The Alzack refelctors will cover about 6 ft of area of that 8 ft ceiling. On higher ceilings the area of light increases, but the footcandle level will be lower on thework surface. Tall ceilings need 100 Watt A lamps but 8 & 9 can usse 75 watt. Whatever you use, be sure that it meets you local electrical code. Don't be bullied into just whatever the contractor likes. Sounds like you found a good showroom where you were getting good information. Perhaps you could purchase the recessed there, where you may be getting professinal advice. Remember most Electricians are not lighting designers!...See MoreNeed to Purchase Recessed Cans
Comments (3)For advice on recessed lighting types and placement, I have been recommending to people in this forum, to look at the back of the Juno Lighting residential lighting catalog. They have very good information on light bulb types and light coverage at various ceiling heights. Juno is considered a higher end brand. I personally used Lightolier in my house, because they had a greater variety of fluorescent recessed fixtures (encouraged in California). Here is a link that might be useful: Juno Residential Lighting catalog...See MoreRecessed lights in 1940 bungalow?
Comments (20)Thanks so much everyone for your reassurance. I was beginning to feel like I was crazy. Do you think it's a mistake to add recessed lights in the new part of the house (the back?). I'm not feeling bad about this, because this part was added on in the 80s and they'd made NO attempt to match the front of the house. Like zero. With this remodel, we're adding many architectural details (installing wood double-hung windows; adding matching trim around the windows, doors, and baseboards; consistent hardwood floors etc.) Feels like we're already taking 10 giant steps to make this "new" part of the house much more consistent with the original part. The kitchen, master bath, and powder room will feel vintagey without trying to be a restoration. Here's my architect's electrical plan. A few changes from the plans: -in the DR we'd planned to put the skylight over the table with art glass. I couldn't get my act together to commision the art glass, so we moved the skylight so it washes the back wall (the green wall in the photo). Thus freeing up space for a chandelier over the table. (I'm now wondering if that was a mistake, but that skylight is installed and so is the new roof). --There is a sun tunnel in the hall from the garage, but not the powder room. The powder will have a pair of cool vintagey sconces; --the kitchen will have vintage-y pendants over the island, sconce over the kitchen sink, and a semi-flush mount over the little breakfast nook in back. --I'll also have a decorative light in the room labeled "family room." (which will be my office/library.). I'll have corner desk (upper right corner on this plan) and want to a lot of tall bookshelves. Since it's my workspace, I'm thinking the recessed lights in that room would be useful. --The master will have four recesed lights (it's a vaulted ceiling) and lamps on the nightstands. (for some reason, my architect drew them as monopoints. My electrician suggested recessed, and if I do only 4--he recommended 6--he'd move them in a bit towards the center). What do you think? I'm feeling fine with this. I do have 1 random smallish light fixture (from Rejuvanation) that I could re-use someone (it will go in the office closet, if I don't have a better spot; it's ORB and schoolhouse like. Nothing wow-exciting but steady). Obviously I could buy other fixtures. One set of suggestions made by my electrican and designer was to put LED tape light under the upper cabinets. And LED strip (?) lighting in the reach-in closets (to the master bedroom closet and also... the pantry--which will be to the left of the W/D). Thoughts? Thanks so much for your help! I really appreciate it! I'm not so crazy after all! ;)...See Moreremodeler_matt
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