what is PTCS testing?
AFter the rebates its not bad. Trane equipment is typically the most expensive. They make good stuff but so does alot of other company's for less money.

zipcom

with all the rebates and tax credit, that's a heck of a price.

I would want the 803 Trane stat.

What mdl VS air handler? I am certain you meant to say 15 SEER not 9 SEER.

I would insist on heat strip being staged- 2 5KW modules would be fine.

I would also consider a good basic 4-5" whole house pleated filter media cabinet like Honeywell.

BTW,American Std, Trane's sister company, offers the Heritage 15 HP mdl and might be less expensive. Either are top of line sgl stg heat pump systems if paired with correct air handler.

IMO

Tigerdunes,

You are right, I meant 15 SEER not 9 SEER.

The Air Handler suggested is the variable speed 2/4TEE.

What is the benefit of having the heat strip staged??

The dealer suggested Trane CleanEffects system. I currently have a Honeywell F100 Media Air Cleaner....How do you think the two compare??

Can you tell me more about the 803 Stat vs the 800...from what I have been able to find the only difference is the humidity sensor and the dehumidification control. Is that more for the AC portion?? Never get too warm here on the Oregon Coast.

NeOhioHeatpump,

The PTCS has to do with performing CheckMe! analysis commissioning and complete duct sealing, per Energy Trust guidelines. Kind of a combination of heat pump optimization, plus duct testing and sealing. Its required for some of the Energy Trust of Oregon's Rebates.

zipcom

staged heat strips will control your operating costs at lower outside temps when HP by itself can not maintain your inside temp setting without help.

I am not a fan of EACs like Trane's CleanEffects. If you are satisfied with the Honeywell cabinet, then I would keep it. You probably change filter once/yr?

The mdl number of the air handler is important. While there are several choices, there is a best choice. Post complete mdl number and I will look up the performance/eff numbers for the system and let you know.

If humidity is not a concern, then the 802 thermostat mdl would be the choice.Be aware that Honeywell makes Trane stats and the identical mdl is available from HW at a less expensive price.

IMO

Tigerdunes,

You are right, I meant 15 SEER not 9 SEER.

The Air Handler suggested is the variable speed 2/4TEE.

What is the benefit of having the heat strip staged??

The dealer suggested Trane CleanEffects system. I currently have a Honeywell F100 Media Air Cleaner....How do you think the two compare??

Can you tell me more about the 803 Stat vs the 800...from what I have been able to find the only difference is the humidity sensor and the dehumidification control. Is that more for the AC portion?? Never get too warm here on the Oregon Coast.

NeOhioHeatpump,

The PTCS has to do with performing CheckMe! analysis commissioning and complete duct sealing, per Energy Trust guidelines. Kind of a combination of heat pump optimization, plus duct testing and sealing. Its required for some of the Energy Trust of Oregon's Rebates.

zipcom

you have posted the mdl of the air handler, not the model number. it makes a difference as to the performance/eff numbers of the overall system.

IMO

tigerdunes,

Sorry about that, here is the info you are looking for:

⢠Trane XL15i (4TWX5024A1000A) 2 ton heat pump with Trane (4TEE3F39A1000A) Variable speed air handler and 10KW strip heaters, cooling 24,000 BTU/h at 16.0 SEER, EER 13.0, heating 24,000 BTU/h at 9.0 HSPF, 71 db, refrigerant R-410A.

I am also looking at a Goodman unit. A goodman 2 ton, single stage heat pump. Its a SSZ16 Series. With a Goodman AEPF series 2.5/3ton, variable speed air handler with 10KW of back up heat. (60A). System is rated at 13.0 EER, 16.0 SEER and 9.5 HSPF

What do you think??

zipcom

what size system are you replacing?

in your original post, you clearly mention a three ton system. But in your last post, you list a quote for a two ton XL15i system and a 2 1/2 ton Goodman.

Correct sizing is important.

I am not a fan of Goodman HVAC.

post back.

IMO

tigerdunes,

My first two quotes from different dealers, the first one was for a 3 ton and the next guy stated I only needed a 2 ton. So I did a little research and found a couple of installers that juse the J Manual method and they both came back with 2 ton for my home.

Thanks!

zipcom

what size is your home?

what size is your current HVAC-be specific? How did it perform? any comfort issues for either cooling or heating?

nat gas is not available?

post back.

IMO

Tigerdunes,

The home is 1800 sq ft. and just 3 years old, pretty well insulated, and like I've mentioned before, I live on the coast and its a very mild climate. I currently have a York 3 ton air handler. It performed well, except very expensive in the winter! No AC just the electric furnace. Natural gas unfortunately is not available. thanks again!

if the air handler and house is only 3 years old and well insulated I would just get a heatpump and get inside coil. Don't need to replace such a new airhandler.

Your electric bills will be cut drastically.
If you heat with electricity you should consider one of those heat pump water tanks. I heard they are great on energy but can be pricey.

zipcom

neohiohp brings up an interesting possibility and I emphasize a possibility.

if existing air handler has an evap coil already installed, then why not look into a York HP condenser. I would not go lower than a 2 1/2 ton condenser especially since your area/climate is moderate and not known for humidity issues. this is certainly worth looking into.

the downside is it is unlikely you could qualify for the tax credit. but the cost savings could make this mighty attractive.

IMO