I bought the toe kicker, but my cabinet guy decided to ignore it. Basically, he didn't want to do the custom work that was required for me to use it--even though I kept asking, "can we please make this toe kicker work?" I'm ticked about it! I'm pretty sure it was designed for inset drawers. In that case, when the drawer/door is closed, it is closed all the way. In order to use it on an overlay unit, "closed" would indeed be about 1/16th of an inch. Also, the unit is a space hog behind the drawer (it is a couple inches long). I think this is why my cab guy didn't want to hassle with it. The trash box wasn't deep enough, and he would have needed to cut some of the back away... It has a very tight spring to it. You have to push it hard to click it. But I think it only opens an inch or so. Then you use your foot to pull the cab open. As it turns out, my cab opens so easily, I don't need the kicker. I can just use my pinky. If my husband ever installs it, I'll try to video it. Btw, the gizmo is about 5 bucks, but the shipping is more than that! Grrrr. I think it was about 12 bucks total. Maybe a bit more. Francy

We installed a foot-operated valve that bypassed the valve in the faucet. We included a tempering valve to regulate the temperature. With our arrangement one is able to use either the foot valve or the main valve. Installation requires a pull-out (integrated sprayer) faucet and a custom fitting to connect the foot valve supply to the faucet line. The Tapmaster system is installed ahead of the faucet so one leaves the faucet ajar and must use the TapMaster to get water. With our rig one can use either with the added advantage of having regulated water temperature from the foot valve. More info at http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg012014495340.html. Search for Tapmaster or foot-operated.

We LOVE our tapmaster. We got the European model with the lever (stick) facing down instead of the kickplate. Thought long and hard on which model and discussed it with their help center. Very happy with our decision. We may even put them in the bathroom (we keep kicking the sinks there to turn on the water) My kids love showing their friends how to use the sink. My DH who thought it was a waste of money LOVES it.

As far as I know Jbrazmania, no one has managed to figure out a way to use it with inset doors...framed, yes, but inset...not yet anyway! For those interested, the Häfele foot pedals are designed for frameless cabinets. However, our own MeToo2 figured out a way to use them w/framed cabinets. See below for MeToo2's instructions and links to pictures in the Gallery: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From the "Pull Out Trash" thread started by ColdTropics on Fri, Jul 20, 07 at 2:43 Posted by metoo2 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 07 at 19:27 Front View when cabinet is shut: Hafele Foot Pedal Door Opener view when door is shut. Face frame cabinets-full overlay. .....http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_fron.html?cat=kitchens View of foot pedal when cabinet is open. Keep in mind this view will be hidden when trash cans are in the cabinet: Hafele foot pedal door opener. Portion of the foot pedal attached to face frame bottom. .....http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_door.html?cat=kitchens Metal plate mounted on bottom back of door. This is the plate that is 3.5" tall--to deal with a face framed cabinet: Hafele foot pedal door opener. This is the metal plate that must be mounted on the inside bottom of the door. I had to make a plate 3.5" tall in order to work with a face frame cabinet. .....http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_meta.html?cat=kitchens Finally, looking at the bottom of the cabinet. Glued a scrap of wood to the back of the face frame. Hafele foot pedal door opener. View from the front bottom of the cabinet. Note that I glued a scrap piece of wood to the back of the face frame to reinforce the installation. .....http://photos.gardenweb.com/home/galleries/2007/08/pull_out_trash_foot_pedal_unde.html?cat=kitchens Posted by metoo2 (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 07 at 20:01 muscat: The rails are always attached to the door-regardless of whether your trash cans hang from a rail, or your trash cans sit on a base. In your picture, the cans sit on a base. I believe that my modifications will also work with your situation (cans sitting on a base). However, you will need to make one minor modification that I did not do. That modification has to do with the elastic cords that come with the pedal. Elastic cords (ie, bungee cords) pull the door open when the pedal is kicked. You would have to alter where the front of the cords are mounted inside the cabinet. Very easy to do. Earlier posts on this thread refer to a version of the Hafele pedal for trash cans which sit on a base. I have not seen this product. I suspect they use the identical pedal, but altered the instructions relative to the location where to mount the elastic cords. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hafele foot pedal (502.15.220) for bins hanging from rails (see bottom of page): .....